Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well thats the point why they are so expensive.
Few cpu units here , few there ... and you can fit something better.
Price of those modules is dictated by players mostly.

Every thing above those 32mil for Republic Fleet Distruptor or Scrambler is added by players.

Look at the Republic Fleet Point and Scrambler.
They both cost the same in LP stores , yet on the market there is usually 40mil price difference between them.

If you make faction modules to cheap, T2 market will be affected.

Some work can be done ( like someone already stated before) to boost the isk cost of the modules in LP store at the cost of LP needed.

price of plex is proof. It has been steadily rising since they came out.

Eh .. don't link plex to isk sinks.
Please.

Plex have unique value.

Edit.
Just to remind you, plex at some point was isk sink, as you where buying similar codes from NPC for isk.
If i remember correctly you could buy 2 months of game for 200 mil?
So yes this kinds also proves how much isk lost value.

Still remember those isk spamers in each system :D

Only to a point. MOST ammo in PvP is faction which tends to be bought with LP sinks. Repairs are a flat out sink. T2 mods have their share of sinks too.

But that's an option. The PVPer could just as easily be using T2 or T1, or may have been given the ammo. The act of buying faction ammo on the market isn't a sink... well, except for the market fees.

I'll say again, PVP may lead to sinks, but isn't a sink in itself. The reason that this is an important distinction comes down to where changes would be made to open (or tighten) the sinks. How could you fairly do anything to PVP itself that would enable more or less cash from leaving the game? Paying a sink for being podded (because only players will pod others) and war deccing costs are the only things I can think of currently that are sinks directly from PVP combat, and the podding costs are going away on the 9th.

As for the things that PVP affects, like buying/making ammo and other things. Doing anything to PVP combat won't affect those all that much. At least not in the way of sinks.

--Gadget

Edit:

Just re-read your post. Repairs are a good combat (but not necessarily PVP) sink that I didn't think of. I've gotten so used to reppers ;)

Rising by that amount in 6 years is really not an excessive amount of inflation, every functioning market always has some level of inflation. one common belief (how true it is I'm not sure ) is that the actual value of the money you have halves every 10 years or so, which would put the trit inflation you quoted pretty much on normal market timescales.

To work out inflation you'd need to do it the same way our governments do with a 'typical shopping basket' list of items to act as a standard checkpoint. PLEX could *never* be considered a normal item in such a calculation and would therfore be completely excluded.

Remove the NPC Bounty completly. Yes! Feel the pain. You will only got small amount of isk by completing missions/anomalies.
Make NPC drop more loot, yes, feel the gathering pain, but wait - the mobile tractors! Make the NPC corps buy comon tech1 equip/minerals/etc. Nulsec farmers will be in very high need of logistics.

No more isk from air. But it never be done.

And remember folks...the house *always* wins...

What you are stating will not change much .
Lets look at the : Caldari Navy Vice Admiral Insignia I
NPC buy price : 500k
Player buy orders : 3.5kk

What happens if we remove or reduce NPC buy orders : nothing , players need this more than NPC, and pay much more for this.
What happens if we double drop rate for those tags? Price will be reduced, but still those tags will be needed.

Isk for tags will still flow between people.

Yes some of the faction items will become less expensive for some time, they will be more often used , question is do we want to have more faction based fits that will outperform and in some cases replace T2 stuff for most of the people?

Example Isk sinks that are already in place:
- SOV bill
- LP store isk requirements
- Production/ invention/ market fee
- Ship insurance ( as long as ship don't die before insurance expires )
- Clone upgrade costs
- Every isk spent on "Trash" bought from NPC
- Repair costs on NPC stations.

In all of those cases you pay isk to NPC for item, or service.


Simple idea for next ISK sink.
Currently rearing bill on sov station can be set to 0.
Why we cannot boost this a bit, and again create NPC fee for all repairs , but to keep sov station bonus in some way the base NPC fee for repairs will be 25% of total fee you pay on NPC station.
Every thing above this value goes to the wallet of station owner.

Will people start to use repair modules - yes.
But people will pay for fixing all overheated modules.

But it doesn't matter if everything has gone up in price as long as it is in line with a level of inflation suitable for a healthy economy, it's only when inflation goes out of control that there is a problem and there is now evidence of it being out of control (ignoring plex which doesn't apply).