Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You are getting this totally wrong way.
Remember that this is game, not work.
Many , if not most , of eve players don't have 19 years any more.
They have work , families.

Sorry but the for me, and for many people the moment i will have to buy PLEX from CCP just to have isk to afford ships will be the last day you will see me on server.

This thread is not about this, F2P or Plex prices.

This thread is how to remove isk flowing into the system.
Isk that is created from nowhere and where most of it should land at the end.

When you come to eve you want to fly bigger and bigger ships.
I still remember my first cruiser, battlecruiser ...
Over the years and experience you learn that smaller signature is important , and when you skill up a bit , you can have similar DPS on proper ships.

So please post your ideas about possible ISK sinks , rather than talkin how PLEX is expensive , and how you don't care that every thing is getting more and more expensive ( while the VALUE stay the same).


That is the point of why we need isk sinks.

Because inflation every month you can buy less assets/hour than in the previous month.

PVP can be enough of an isk sink as it is. Calling ship insurance an isk faucet is laughable; it's the only reason many people will take out expensive or big ships. I dunno about you, but I refuse to grind red crosses to replace 300 mil losses.

Solution is simple, less hi security space, more low security space and less zero risk income. Yeah, Nullsec is safer than Hisec but that's a much larger problem CCP has created.

There isn't enough low sec outside of FW space.

Nope. You're confusing ISK in an individual's wallet with the amount of ISK in the game.

PVP isn't an ISK sink. No money leaves the system when a ship is blown up. The individual might be out some cash if the pilot purchaced the ships, but that money goes to who the pilot bought the ships from. That's ISK movement, not a sink.

If the pilot builds her own ships, then there's a slight sink in manufacturing fees. But then, that's not PVP, that's industry.

If all the ships in the game were uninsured and exploded tomorrow, this would only cause an ISK loss in one way: Players rage-quitting EvE and taking their ISK out of circulation.

Insurance is a type of faucet because if everyone had insurance on all those ships, then that ISK from the payments would come from nowhere. However, insuance is also a sink, because if magically every ship in the game had insurance and they all survived for the length of an insurance contract, then that's money leaving the game with no return. Insurance is tricky, and honestly needs to be reviewed to make sure that the pay-ins and pay-outs cancel each other out as much as possible.

Safety has nothing to do with the amount of ISK circulating in the game. It might decide how much it moves between players, but that has nothing to with how much ISK is generated or is destroyed as a whole.

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As for why this thread was looking for sink ideas. We are about to lose a sink in the form of med-clone costs. While the loss of this sink obviously hasn't affected the game's economy yet, and we don't know for sure how it will affect the economy in the future, it would be better to have something to replace the sink should we need it.

I'll say again, that it's better to have a solution to a problem ready before the problem becomes a problem. Since this is all speculation, it doesn't cost the devs anything but some idle chat over beers and some note taking. Should a problem with inflation become apparent, then the devs can brush off the sink ideas and implement it. Better to be vigilant.

--Gadget

Destroyed modules need repurchased. Module repairs need effected. Ammunition is expended. Drones are lost.

the amount of minerals went up by more than 10% it was equalized to the teir 3's

That's a given. I was refering to PVP in it's more focused meaning. Blowing each other up. :)

--Gadget

Tax on local chat you want intel pay concord...

A lot hi lo or blue sec regardless.

*cough il take my leave now

Affordable faction modules. Most of them are barely better than tech 2 yet barely cheaper than deadspace so everyone just fits deadspace instead. If faction modules were more affordable (considering overall price) while a good chunk of their market value was the ISK cost from the LP store, they would get used a lot more and that would mean large amounts of ISK being drained into LP stores.

Giving LP stores more options for things you can buy with mostly just ISK would really help put a cap on inflation because inflation would cause those particular items to become cheaper, increasing their popularity, causing ISK to go to LP stores, causing deflation.

They should cut back on those LP costs, especially for faction modules where the only difference between them and tech 2 is CPU cost.