EVE General Discussion

Yeah technically the Jove are still missing.

Tease time!

Templar One page 386-387:

Perhaps they sleepers have arrived in search of the other and the others like it? They are after all scanning every structure and ships. Perhaps they are seeking out hosts or objects linked to the other entities and first entity. And finally the one image in the distance resembles an eidolon model from previous years.

I think there are too many of these things for that to be the case.

I just think these are the old, original, Jove stations, before the Motherships moved the Jovians away, and they are hoping to rebuild their society. Starting with using whatever old tech they can find in these outposts and stations.

That makes the assumption that the battleships and the outposts are part of the same faction of the Jove.

The Battle of Luminare wasn't just capsuleers. There were both factions navies there. The Lore was the reason before why we never could damage the Titan originally. It could be argued that the Navy Dreads were the ones to take the Titan Down, and we were all just dealing with more mid-range faction navies that were sent there without committing the main force.

I mean lets be realistic, if either side was willing to commit their main forces, there would have been hundreds of Titans there, thousands of Carriers and Dreads.. Instead there was a dozen of the latter two, and just the lone Titan.

Also, remember during the Event the Cal Navy blapped a Concord BS, which is what lead to Concord pulling out and leaving the system.



In the end, personally, I don't mind that copout.. I mean CCP hasn't said the Empires are gonna fall. People took the line "The Empires are losing control" and extrapolated that. It could easily just mean that as more and more space is added, more space is under control of Players.. POCO's are players. Player Outposts now are better for manufacturing, etc. That's a loss of control without outright war. Also, Empires are never gonna fall, because that's where the carebears live, and CCP isn't just gonna give a boot to half their subscriber base. So if CCP wants to have a few lore Copouts to keep the Empires more powerful, I'm fine with that. It's a necessary evil in keeping the game from going to hell.

They're interested in them the same way the Sleepers are. A couple of folks have suggested that the Drifters are Talocan and I tend to agree with that idea.

Here's how I see it: Something wonked up royally in Jove space, resulting Caroline's Star. Whatever that was, it broke something about the unidentified structures, causing them to become visible. This attracts the attention of the Sleepers, who begin sending drones into kspace to see if they can glean any info on what has gone wrong (mainly because it also wrecked Thera and the shattered holes and, well, they kinda live there). Attracted by the new Sleeper activities, the Drifters try to break in to the Sleeper's data systems in kspace (hence why all the Sleeper Caches are partially damaged and "ransacked). And then the structures decloak fully. Behold, the.....the um....(let's see here...Sleepers.....Drifters.......????ers?....."they are listening to you"....ah, I got it!) The Listeners! .....who are also trying to figure out what the hell happened in Jove space that screwed up their stations all the way out here. They're decloaking them fully now to put a feeler out to the Sleepers and Drifters to see what relations might be like between the three groups.

Full disclosure: I expect none of that to be true.

Exactly. Isn't one of the upcoming additions, that we're not talking about much here, is those massive structures that are maintaining Wormholes that we cannot interact with? Seems like that technology is also being brought to bare at the moment.

I was pouring over old news stories when I came across this interesting tidbit: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/intaki-spiritual-leader-announces-marriage/

Note the name of Vika Kuvakei. Her background and ancestry match that of Sansha Kuvakei, leader of Sansha's Nation. Since the nation has been linked to w-space, I thought I would throw this out there.

There is also this thing: http://forum.battleclinic.com/index.php?topic=5378.0;wap

The original news dispatch seems to have been lost. Fortunately, it seems to have been saved to back-up at battle-clinic.

Also found this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=330427

Seems she was involved in implant research. As one person says, not terribly surprising.

edit: oh, look. More. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=76943 I'll keep digging tonight.

Coincidentally, there was a resurgence of Nation activity at or around this time.

Holy freaking cow.

Lore-digging can be epic.

The quote on the Drifter logo at now.eveonline.com says "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." This is quote from Einstein' s "Geometry and Experience". It is a papper that deals in hyper-eucledian mathematics and spatial manipulation.

Does that sound familiar ? It should.
According to in-game description The Talocan were masters of spatial maniulation and hyper-eucledian mathematics.



Uuuuuu can't wait for Fanfest!