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Returning to the game 10 years later
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Nodd
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-11-20 05:37:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nodd
I played EVE for a year or so when it first came out, had a great time. Got myself & couple of battleships & other fun toys. My Corp setup shop deep in 0.0 space & we had a blast. After a while my interests shifted & I ended up leaving EVE some time in late 2004...

...fast forward 10 years & I'm back. I log in & find my Corp is long gone as is my alliance. My character is sitting in a 0.0 station 45 jumps from Empire space. I'm rusty as hell, barely remember how to play. Most of my ships & a ton of equipment are also here in this 0.0 station. Some other corp now owns the station so I'm locked out of the station services, can't insure anything, can't refit anything. I'm basically stranded in hostile territory afraid to undock.

I'd like to relocate back to high security space, regroup & figure out what I want to do next. So I'm looking for some suggestions. Obviously I don't want to leave all my stuff behind but I will if I have to I guess. Here's a couple of thoughts I had...

First, play an alt character & get back up to speed
I've been running the noob tutorial missions with a new character which has been a great help in bringing me back up to speed, amazing how much you can forget in a decade. Things have changed though, I'm not familiar with a lot of the "new tech" & I've pretty much forgotten just about everything anyway. I'm getting there though, re-learning everything as fast as I can.

Option One
Load up my uninsured Apoc battleship & see if I can make it back 45 jumps though hostile 0.0 space. I can't refit her for travel as I'm locked out of the station services of course. And then assuming by some miracle I do make it, I then have to go back for my other ships. I'm not a big fan of this plan, bound to get ganked for sure.

Option Two
I notice I have access to the regional market at this 0.0 station. I could repackage my ships & sell them right there. Then buy new stuff when I get out of 0.0. I seem to be limited to 5 market sales at a time however. That means I'd only be able to sell a very small portion of my stash at a time, might take months to liquidate everything.

Option Three
Cut my losses & just start over. I have a small amount of ISK, enough to setup a modest fleet somewhere new. I can always try to recover my ships & stuff at some time in the future I guess.

Anyway I've only been back in EVE for a few days now, could use some advice.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2014-11-20 06:03:24 UTC
I believe a GM will relocate one ship and everything that fits in it to contiguous highsec as a once-off when you return to the game after 6 months or more unsubbed in null.

Post a help ticket and see if that's the case.

If not, option 2 is best. You can leave the nullsec area in a cheap ship, then return when you have more market orders (train the skills Retail and Trade for this, and use an Interceptor to get back to the region safely and cloak up while using the market in space). You'll need a few specific trade skills to be able to post sell orders for your stuff while in space.

You will definitely lose the Apoc if you undock in it.

You should run the tutorials again regardless. A lot has changed.

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Celine Sophia Maricadie
Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC
#3 - 2014-11-20 06:07:42 UTC
"Nodd" wrote:
First, play an alt character & get back up to speed
I've been running the noob tutorial missions with a new character which has been a great help in bringing me back up to speed, amazing how much you can forget in a decade. Things have changed though, I'm not familiar with a lot of the "new tech" & I've pretty much forgotten just about everything anyway. I'm getting there though, re-learning everything as fast as I can.
Excellent move.

"Nodd" wrote:
Option Two
I notice I have access to the regional market at this 0.0 station. I could repackage my ships & sell them right there. Then buy new stuff when I get out of 0.0. I seem to be limited to 5 market sales at a time however. That means I'd only be able to sell a very small portion of my stash at a time, might take months to liquidate everything.
This seems like your most probable solution for the best outcome.

I also recommend taking a look at Eve Uni's resources from their wiki and public classes, along with their help channel "E-UNI". You can find that listed under the "Help" channels.

Welcome back to Eve!
CooCoo CooCoo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-11-20 06:23:13 UTC
How about contracting everything @discount for a sure sale... Whatever you do, welcome back and gl.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2014-11-20 07:27:41 UTC
Use the petition system and see if a GM can teleport you in the ship you are sitting in. After so long, there is a good chance they will do that (though it make take awhile for them to respond).


Failing that...

You can create a public contract for the market value (or just below the market value) of all your items and sell them that way (highlight items, right click, create contract).

You can also insure your battleship (do the highest level you can) and try making it back to high-sec. If you die you will get ~80% of the hull's value and an "express route" back into high-sec.

How did you Veterans start?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-11-20 08:33:30 UTC
Petition for a move.

CCP likely will move you, your current active ship and its cargo to safety.

Firesell the rest.

P.s. selling to buy orders doesnt take up market orders. So you can if possible firesell it to buy order if they exist.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-11-20 08:34:32 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
ShahFluffers wrote:
Use the petition system and see if a GM can teleport you in the ship you are sitting in. After so long, there is a good chance they will do that (though it make take awhile for them to respond).


Failing that...

You can create a public contract for the market value (or just below the market value) of all your items and sell them that way (highlight items, right click, create contract).

You can also insure your battleship (do the highest level you can) and try making it back to high-sec. If you die you will get ~80% of the hull's value and an "express route" back into high-sec.


You cant use the insurance office if the owner locks it to non-friendlies.


Last option he has, reprocess everything and sell the minerals.

Judging by inflation in my 4 years in EVE vs his 10, he might even make a profit out of it. Even with the lower outcome now a days.

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Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2014-11-20 09:05:21 UTC
Come join us in "Help Chat - Reloaded" pretty much nothing you once knew applies anymore.

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Adolph Weltschmerz
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-20 15:01:57 UTC
Send in your alt or a friend with a mobile depot. That way you can refit to travel in a safe spot.
Or scan down a wormhole chain back to safer space.

A
Toshiro Hasegawa
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2014-11-20 15:29:42 UTC
1 Pick 1 ship - fot expanded cargo mods if you got em .. fill it up with your smallest best stuff .. no ammo or the like - just high end mods, Blueprints, skillbooks ..

firesale the rest .. what you can sell - reprocess and sell the mins.

petition to get 1 ship + your pilot moved to highsec.

so much has changed it aint even worthwhile trying to start listing things .. but as a day 1 player i can tell you this .. at its core the game is the same. -- you still right click on stuff to do things with the stuff. You train skills. You buy low and sell high. You dont undock and fly what you can not afford to lose. Trust no one 100% you can cant get in a car and go visit for a "little chat".

Redo the tutorials. Then do the SOE epic arc storyline mission thingy. Join Eve University, or at least their community chat channel and check out their web page(s) / Wiki for info on everything in game.

Oh and welcome back. :)

History is the study of change.

Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-11-20 15:30:02 UTC
Nodd wrote:
I seem to be limited to 5 market sales at a time however. That means I'd only be able to sell a very small portion of my stash at a time, might take months to liquidate everything.

That's easily fixed. Train up the "Trade" and "Retail" skills a few levels and you'll have significantly more orders available (4 per level with trade and 8 per level with retail). They're useful skills to have in any case, and should be very cheap to pick up once you get to high sec.

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Nodd
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-11-20 16:48:09 UTC
Thank you everyone for the responses, it's nice to know I have options.

I should mention again, refitting my ships with expanded cargo or safe travel doohickeys is not an option. The current owners of the station have me locked out of the station services. Training new skills is also an issue as there's little or no skills for sale way out here.

I'm thinking I may combine two of your suggestions...

Firesale
I'll attempt to sell off some of the larger items like my ships using my five available sell orders, public contracts & fill any buy orders that match my stuff. I'd forgotten about the latter two, thanks.

GM get me outa-here!
Apparently I can fit almost everything else in my Indy. If a GM agrees to port me back to high-sec that'd be the ship I'd choose.

Some of your other suggestions are interesting too, I didn't know about cloaked interceptors, mobile depots or wormholes. As far as I know, they weren't around back in my day (LOL I sound like my Grandfather). To that end I've started looking over EVE Uni's content, what a great resource. If the above options fail I'll look further into those.

A quick question about repackaging. It's possible some of my ships may need repairing. Without access to station services, can I sill repackage them for the market?

Again a huge thank you for both the advice & the warm welcome back.
Celine Sophia Maricadie
Tal-Cel Industry and Salvage LLC
#13 - 2014-11-20 19:45:12 UTC
"Nodd" wrote:
A quick question about repackaging. It's possible some of my ships may need repairing. Without access to station services, can I sill repackage them for the market?
Items that are damaged cannot be sold on the market unless they're repackaged. For your damaged ships your option would be to sell via contracts.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2014-11-20 22:49:09 UTC
I should also add that an Apocalypse won't take you long to replace.

10 years ago (from what I know) a battleship was somewhat of a status symbol, and also somewhat overpowered. This has changed. Battleships are now seen as budget ships for alliances to field in large numbers in sovereign warfare, or as introductory PVE ships.

Once you hit your stride, replacing an uninsured battleship should cost you about 1-3 hours of playing time (to acquire enough ISK to buy one). The ships that cost a fair bit to replace - pirate faction battleships, marauders and the highly specialised capital ships - take about as much effort to acquire as a BS used to.

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Nodd
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-11-21 05:40:51 UTC
Yeah we were Gods back then stomping around in our battleships. It took months of grinding to pay for one but it was worth it.

Anyway here's what's what...

FOR SALE
I stripped my Apoc & my Maller & successfully repackaged them. Those are now up for sale on the market, fingers crossed someone buys them.

LOADED UP & READY TO PORT
Everything else I managed to squeeze into a Mammoth.

So hopefully once my ships sell I'll submit a support ticket & fingers crossed a GM will help me out.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-11-21 06:58:47 UTC
Hello old timer,

Welcome back to Eve. Sounds like you got a good plan of action set up now.

Hope everything works out for you. Good luck and much success.



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Nodd
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-11-21 17:36:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Nodd
UPDATE
My Apoc has sold (for a good price)! My Maller has not but I'm not too worried about a cruiser. But here's the big news...

Big smileI'M BACK IN HIGH-SEC Big smile

EDIT
I've removed a transcript of my conversation with the GM due to forum rules.

In summery though I created a support ticket explaining my situation & requesting I be moved to a different station back in high-sec. Five minutes later a GM responded stating that he understood my situation & explained that they were willing to offer a one time only relocation. My character, my indy & everything I could stuff into its hold was then moved to a station of my choice.

So there you have it, I'm back! Thank you all again for the help. It's very much appreciated.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#18 - 2014-11-21 17:57:20 UTC
While well-intentioned, posting GM correspondence is not allowed on the forums.

You might want to delete it from your post before an ISD or GM does it for you. Blink

Also... congrats on getting back into the game.

How did you Veterans start?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-11-21 18:47:56 UTC
I don't see any names posted, probably OK.

Anyway, gratz on being moved back to high sec for a fresh start. Hope you have a long and rewarding career.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Nodd
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-11-21 19:35:07 UTC
Post edited, thanks.
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