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Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#141 - 2014-11-26 18:31:28 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Obviously the guy with 218 lifetime kills, and none this month, is a master of the warzone and has an omnipotent view of most of the goings on in the region.

I'm retired and probably have a better idea of what is going on than him.


We're really falling back on KB statistics now are we? I mean ... really? Ignore the fact that this alt is the CEO of one of the biggest Cal Mil alliances and really, reflect deeply on what you've just done because you deserve to feel very bad about it regardless.


Oh, so you are a forum troll as well as someone who is partially responsible for the terrible shape that Caldari has been in since TEST left? This makes the crap you spew better how?


Good switch back mate. You've gone from saying I don't know anything about the state of the warzone because of my kill count on this character to I don't know anything because I'm a CEO? That's pretty damn desperate. And calling me a forum troll while you are defending Crosi ... really?

It's kind of amusing that you guys are so easily riled by someone simply questioning Crosi's bullshit. The speed at which all that forum swagger collapses into the most juvenile level of ad hominem attacks possible is just incredible.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#142 - 2014-11-26 19:01:01 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Obviously the guy with 218 lifetime kills, and none this month, is a master of the warzone and has an omnipotent view of most of the goings on in the region.

I'm retired and probably have a better idea of what is going on than him.


We're really falling back on KB statistics now are we? I mean ... really? Ignore the fact that this alt is the CEO of one of the biggest Cal Mil alliances and really, reflect deeply on what you've just done because you deserve to feel very bad about it regardless.


Oh, so you are a forum troll as well as someone who is partially responsible for the terrible shape that Caldari has been in since TEST left? This makes the crap you spew better how?


Good switch back mate. You've gone from saying I don't know anything about the state of the warzone because of my kill count on this character to I don't know anything because I'm a CEO? That's pretty damn desperate. And calling me a forum troll while you are defending Crosi ... really?

It's kind of amusing that you guys are so easily riled by someone simply questioning Crosi's bullshit. The speed at which all that forum swagger collapses into the most juvenile level of ad hominem attacks possible is just incredible.


It's ok to be wrong man, really.

JUSTK is recruiting
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#143 - 2014-11-26 19:01:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Epikurus wrote:
Do you even KNOW who I AM?


LOL!

My alt corp has more effect on the warzone than this bloc thing.

And also, you are implying that people are defending me because they are criticizing you. You have gone from attempting to apply an amateur level of debate standards to an internet spaceship forum to an abject failure of reasoning.

This is quite the display, do go on.
Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#144 - 2014-11-26 19:44:26 UTC


When someone descends to the level of arguing from KB stats to knowledge of the warzone it's perfectly reasonable to point out that there is other data they should factor in. That is so manifestly obvious that I know you know it to be true despite your attempts to spin my comment into an ego thing.


Quote:

And also, you are implying that people are defending me because they are criticizing you.


Arguing that I am wrong to be criticising you because of 'killboards' is a defence of you. As far as I can see there has been no criticism of me at all, just attempts to divert from the topic by ranting about irrelevant stats.

Crosi Wesdo wrote:

My alt corp has more effect on the warzone than this bloc thing.



uh-huh

Do you really not see how far you're sinking. We're hitting kindergarten levels here now.
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#145 - 2014-11-26 19:49:55 UTC
Hodar.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#146 - 2014-11-26 20:20:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Epikurus wrote:
Arguing that I am wrong to be criticising you because of 'killboards' is a defence of you


No one said that, you are hallucinating. He said you didnt seem to be very active outside of a station, ever, so was questioning your credibility. There was no mention of me in his post at all so i dont know where you get the impression he is defending me.

As for my alt corp, im serious. For the last couple of months ive defended no less than a group of 7 systems at opposite ends of the warzone almost single handedly and made good isk and kills doing it. Though its nice to see that while im having a few days away from the game its obvious that other people are working just as hard to keep the fires down.

In comparison, bloc has achieved literally nothing in FW occupancy for many months, along with the rest of calmil. I assume because putting effort in to defend or take a warzone = 'kindergarten levels'. Explains a lot.
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#147 - 2014-11-26 21:11:28 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
Do you really not see how far you're sinking. We're hitting kindergarten levels here now.

Correction, it appears you are the one hitting kindergarten levels here despite some florid~ language in some of your earlier posts. Give up, you will lose (in the sense you will end up temporarily losing your mind) an argument with Crosi. I know this from having argued with him in chat channels and on comms Big smile.

One thing I'll agree with your lot on though, is that this thread and the OP probably should not have been posted. However, that's freedom of speech for you. Sometimes the result is over-the-top and facepalm inducing. But then that's what differentiates a freedom of speech democracy from a croney corprofacist totalitarian stateP

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#148 - 2014-11-26 21:39:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Epikurus
Deacon Abox wrote:
Give up, you will lose (in the sense you will end up temporarily losing your mind)


Brains are already leaking out of my ears. This is good advice.

Quote:

One thing I'll agree with your lot on though, is that this thread and the OP probably should not have been posted.


I have no problem with the thread - a regular GalMil circle-jerk has become something of a tradition in this forum. Crosi making stuff up out of wholecloth and people using killboard stats as a criterion for credibility though ... it feels like there are a few people here channeling CAOD circa 2009.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#149 - 2014-11-26 21:50:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Epikurus wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Give up, you will lose (in the sense you will end up temporarily losing your mind)


Brains are already leaking out of my ears. This is good advice.

Quote:

One thing I'll agree with your lot on though, is that this thread and the OP probably should not have been posted.


I have no problem with the thread - a regular GalMil circle-jerk has become something of a tradition in this forum. Crosi making stuff up out of wholecloth and people using killboard stats as a criterion for credibility though ... it feels like there are a few people here channeling CAOD circa 2009.


I didnt say anything about killboard stats. I dont need to refer outside this thread to illustrate your lack of credibility. You are doing a fine job.

You are taking what started as a semantic argument, objecting to my absolutist phrasing (im not in the habit of hedging every sentence since things get a little long winded that way) as though it could be something other than my perspective, and saying that invalidated my observations on calmil behavior even after i clarified things for your simple literalistic mind. Theres just no continuity in your argument. Just crazy mad posting.
greg01
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#150 - 2014-11-26 22:07:06 UTC
i miss Damar.....

No Surrender.

IBS are recruiting.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#151 - 2014-11-26 22:08:59 UTC
greg01 wrote:
i miss Damar.....

No Surrender.

IBS are recruiting.


There is no way he will not be back.

It will be once cal mil are on top again so he can enjoy the fruits of other peoples labor. Pretty much the same as last time he quit.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#152 - 2014-11-26 22:34:57 UTC
When trying to determine how you could be so wrong despite piles of evidence presented to you in multiple threads I had to look somewhere. If you want to understand the warzone better you might want to try undocking from time to time and doing stuff.

JUSTK is recruiting
Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard
#153 - 2014-11-26 23:20:16 UTC
So, I started this to stir some trouble and look, for the fist part of this thread, it actually worked. There were some hilarious commets. But still.... Where the hell is our Finnish friend with deep issues and his possy? Where are you, "wrong Hermes", "mattecoldpillow" and "Wheelchair"?

These Mjolnir or whatever amateurs are obviously not to the task of slapping back! At least not on the forums - they need backup. And yet they talk about some "big things coming" in space.... I do hope for a Raven Navy Issue fleet. I really do.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#154 - 2014-11-26 23:24:22 UTC
Desra Mascani wrote:
So, I started this to stir some trouble and look, for the fist part of this thread, it actually worked. There were some hilarious commets. But still.... Where the hell is our Finnish friend with deep issues and his possy? Where are you, "wrong Hermes", "mattecoldpillow" and "Wheelchair"?

These Mjolnir or whatever amateurs are obviously not to the task of slapping back! At least not on the forums - they need backup. And yet they talk about some "big things coming" in space.... I do hope for a Raven Navy Issue fleet. I really do.


That would be "super"

JUSTK is recruiting
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#155 - 2014-11-26 23:34:41 UTC
greg01 wrote:
i miss Damar..... No Surrender. IBS are recruiting.
I miss your alter-ego greg06. Greg's 02 through 05, though, were pretty lame.
Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#156 - 2014-11-27 00:46:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Epikurus
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
When trying to determine how you could be so wrong despite piles of evidence presented to you in multiple threads I had to look somewhere. If you want to understand the warzone better you might want to try undocking from time to time and doing stuff.


What exactly is it you think I'm wrong about? The only claim I have made about the warzone is that Crosi was wildly incorrect in stating that we only form as we did on Sunday when having our hands held by 3rd parties and that the only other things we ever do are gate camp and run. Even he is now saying that's not objectively true. It's so obviously untrue I'm amazed that any discussion is needed.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#157 - 2014-11-27 01:24:13 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
I have no problem with the thread - a regular GalMil circle-jerk has become something of a tradition in this forum. Crosi making stuff up out of wholecloth and people using killboard stats as a criterion for credibility though ... it feels like there are a few people here channeling CAOD circa 2009.

It's hard not to circle jerk when the Federation Militia had 404 final blow (MILITIA only) kills yesterday while the Caldari Militia had 228. It's been like this for quite a while (2400 kills for the past week vs. 1390 for you guys.)

In any case, I think some sort of perspective is in order here. My 185 man alliance has 2,814 total kills this month - AND IT'S A FREAKING SLOW MONTH!. We have guys bored to tears that there aren't any fights around. Your 313 man alliance has 864 total kills and you're all "Hey we fly lots of fleets man, we really do!". It's been several months since we took the warzone. You guys should have respawned a bit stronger by now.

So yeah, you guys are out in space doing something with somebody whatever. Congrats. You know where Rakapas is. Come and take it.
Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#158 - 2014-11-27 02:08:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Epikurus
X Gallentius wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
I have no problem with the thread - a regular GalMil circle-jerk has become something of a tradition in this forum. Crosi making stuff up out of wholecloth and people using killboard stats as a criterion for credibility though ... it feels like there are a few people here channeling CAOD circa 2009.

It's hard not to circle jerk when the Federation Militia had 404 final blow (MILITIA only) kills yesterday while the Caldari Militia had 228. It's been like this for quite a while (2400 kills for the past week vs. 1390 for you guys.)

In any case, I think some sort of perspective is in order here. My 185 man alliance has 2,814 total kills this month - AND IT'S A FREAKING SLOW MONTH!. We have guys bored to tears that there aren't any fights around. Your 313 man alliance has 864 total kills and you're all "Hey we fly lots of fleets man, we really do!". It's been several months since we took the warzone. You guys should have respawned a bit stronger by now.

So yeah, you guys are out in space doing something with somebody whatever. Congrats. You know where Rakapas is. Come and take it.



We have a 66 man mining corp on the books in our alliance Oops from the days when we kept a null system on the side for PvE. Another 60 pilots are in corps who have been with us for under a week and we have plenty of alts in the alliance (which I believe are barred from at least one corp in yours). So, I wouldn't place too much weight on raw numbers Blink.

It's also been a very slow month for us. Normally we kill in the 1200-1500 range, which in comparison to anyone except the top 5 GalMil corps is pretty damn decent. Hell, we would still place in the middle of the top 10 militia corps pretty much every month even if we were in GalMil, despite not having the broader GalMil infrastructure to piggyback on. Despite that, I don't see you talking down to Moira. or Aideron or any of the other Gal corps outside the top five in the same way.

That said, I would never dream of contesting the fact that you guys kill lots more than us and are pound for pound stronger and uglier. You also do a hell of a lot more solo and micro-gang stuff. Hopefully one day we can build up to the same level of capability but for the moment we're happy with the rate at which we're developing and it would be foolish of us to expect to be on a level with you when we've been growing from a standing start of zero PvP experience and a handful of noobs a year ago.
SmokinJs Arthie
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#159 - 2014-11-27 03:03:41 UTC
We only talk down to Aideron cause they use mumble.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#160 - 2014-11-27 03:37:16 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
Despite that, I don't see you talking down to Moira. or Aideron or any of the other Gal corps outside the top five in the same way.
Yeah well they put in their fair share of pvp, and they're under the same "starving for kills" situation we're in. Anyways, I'm sure you guys fly around in 30 man fleets everywhere. It's just that we're (including Crosi) not seeing them - probably because our side of the warzone is dead. My guess is AIDER and RDRAW probably see these fleets more often than us.