EVE General Discussion

oh someone said this before me :(

ah, i don't think the shirt's a problem in many social settings

e: i mean, it's the sort of thing that needs a judgement call. there's jokes we'd say in private to friends that we would not repeat in public, for example. i've seen someone break down completely in response to a joke someone told in the wrong setting. i've repeated the same joke to friends privately and they've enjoyed it.

Speaking of out of context quoting, going Commando in a T2 shirt would be hitting two Arnold references in the same outfit.


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Sure. I've been in a few discussions about the video both in and out of work and it has been an emotional, complicated mess. The fellow you mention is one extreme example from the video.

there's a difference between a man wearing such a shirt and a woman who wants to look good

i can't remember the name behind the idea - sexual liberation? the idea is that a woman's sexuality and body are hers to enjoy. that is, a women dressing to look good to men because she enjoys it is liberating. she makes a choice because it makes her feel good. she owns her sexuality and her body and she does what she wants with them. she doesn't deserve criticism for that and noone should tell her not to

now when a woman's body (fake women on shirts) is being used purely for the enjoyment of others, it becomes a different situation. there was a star trek movie recently, i think, where the movie was criticised for having one of the actresses nude for no real reason? look at what's being criticised. the actress is not. she's doing a job she chose to do, she says well i'm fine with taking my clothes off for the job. that's ok. the choices of the management to depict a nude woman for the sake of pleasing an assumed male audience for tickets or promotion, that will be criticised

e: to be clear, this creates an opposite concept to liberation - oppression. when an entire gender's body is being commonly used for sales or the other gender's enjoyment, it creates the idea that's what women's bodies are for. they're not.

Dude the same day this happened (if i remember correctly) Kim Kardashian released the "Break the Internet" set of picks where she's in her "baby suit".
Did you hear anything about that from the same feminist movement? Because actions like that promote sexism you know.

Now this guy, a brilliant man, has his career possibly ruined because some quack felt offended by the drawn women on his shirt. But "like-ing" semi-nudes of Kim is totally OK.

So in a world that sees nothing wrong with drooling after KK's butt and her publicly posting pics of her nude - we go after a scientist who has a shirt with drawn not naked women? Seriously now...
Also the leader of the same feminist group that went after the dude has pictures of her in a "Bathe In Male Tears" sweatshirt on her Faceboook page. So yeah...

It was one small shirt for man, one giant step backwards for women.

Also let's not forget this....You owe your very existence to a man sexually objectifying a woman.

yes but did you saw a public apology filled with tears?

yet again. you don't know why someone cries if they do not tell you. the man acknowledged a mistake and apparently there's a lot of people out there completely disregarding his own opinion and yet claim to defend him

He is (and hopefully still is) a member of ESA.
He had to make an apology to save face. This how big things work ;)

how interesting that you know more about the guy than he tells you, white knight