EVE General Discussion

erm.. no.

It allows a single human being to enjoy the fruits of simultaneous labor by multiple pilots. It unduly rewards those who are willing to purchase better hardware, more subscriptions, and more plex to acquire in game assets. It fundamentally conflicts with the idea that the human being is the solitary pilot logged on, and should be solely entitled to the output of that pilot.

Another spot on comment Jenn. Keep up the great work.

Translation : "Damn it, he's hit the nail on the head and exposed my mental deficiencies,better deflect him with F'd up smilies and warp off"

I'ma start charging isk for my services.

Ya, please do.

Because nothing says Eve like a single person controlling a 20 ship nado gank squad, a 40 ship procurer mining fleet, or a massive lowsec gatecamp. That makes the game super appealing to new and casual players. What's next, and entire nullsec alliance run by a single person using ISBotter?

See.. here is the issue with this whole anti multibox thing...

Eve is not a theme park.

I'll tell you, very simply why multiboxing is not play to win in eve...

BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO WIN.

*wait wha?!?*

I'll prove it.

Take me for an example, I have been here for nearly 11 years. (will be 11 in april) I have ran a fun corp for 7 years now, ran two failed alliances, both times I heald sov, once on my own for ~2 (give or take a few months) years (between the kari pipe, Catch and owning Z-UZZN) And once as a renter in cloud ring and again in wicked creek. I have had 500 pilots under my command. I owned a nyx for a month, lost it in battle. Owned 5 stations in my eve life time, lost them all in battle, have 130m sp's (kids, use implants, or it hurts your sp numbers) Lost 50 badgers in a single month (yes look it up. This is why I don't use implants) successfully feed a pos network for 30 pos' alone (before fuel blocks) Have recruited and trained well over 10k players in my eve time. 99% of the time I have had less then 500m isk to my name, I am primarily an industrialist (I suck at pvp hence no implants) and I have 3 accounts (Da is a miner/alliance leader/industrialist, lombar is my pvp alt.. and death fox is my hauler alt) I find this type of play to be fun and enjoyable. I always had the right amount of isk to do what I want, was never space rich, and I enjoy myself. I set my own goals an objectives and attempt to reach them.

In other words, I don't give a flying **** if someone had 50 accounts and is making 1T isk a month. Does it bother me? no. Do I give a **** if they pop me? No. Why? Go check my k/d ratio and you will see that I don't judge 'success' that way.

That's the point. I don't care if you have 1 account or 10000000000000, eve has no set rate of success. Stop thinking of it as a liniear game, and then you won't worry about mutliboxers. Cause in the end, if they have 1t isk or 1isk, they still die the same ******* way. You are prolly one of thouse guys who pisses and moans irl because some rich dude was given a crap load of money from his parents and thus he did not start out 'fair'.

Grow up, play eve your way, and don't worry what billybob next door is doing. If you dislike billybob's play style, go fine friends who also dislike billybobs play style and blow him the **** up.

Play smart and a multi boxers won't bother you.

If you can't wrap your head around that eve is NOT a play to win game, no matter what you do, cause frankly there si no end game, no end, just like life. Then maybe you need to look into WoW.

I made no mistake. You assumed, (hoping) to prove a point. I WAS scouting, and I lived.

Also, YOU are the one who moved the goalpost, sir. Not the other poster. You conveniently side-steped the fact that this guy can't be attacked or challenged. That's pay to win - pay to win - pay to win.

Friends? So basically, this guy's fifteen accounts equals fifteen of my friends? (Pay to win, anybody?)

Any way you wanna f*$c that football, it's pay to win. Skills don't matter in that fight. Whoever has the most accounts, the most MONEY invested in the game, wins. (psst, pay to win)

Did I say "pay to win" enough?

Yea. 101% His characters were named something like "multibox1," and "multibox2," etc.




Oh, dear. Let's talk about this little gem of a post.

Incompetencies? So having one account is an incompetency? Or is not being able to challenge and kill a guy with three accounts an incompetency? I'm sorry. I'll run out and buy 3 more accounts so I'm not "incompetent."

Scapegoat? I can't kill a guy with 15 accounts. Obviously, I'm just blaming isoboxer for my inadequacy. HAHAHA

PFFFFTTT!

So somehow, using isboxer erects this magical shield where in a fleet of similar size made of of people (or of another guy using isboxer) can't defeat the guys using isboxer? If so i better go download isboxer, because i too would like that magical shield (been wanting one ever since CCP lied an named a mod "Invulnerability Field" that doesn't make you invulnerable...).

"Pay to win" is when a game company gives you a game mechanics based advantage after you give them money. Having multiple accounts or using isboxer doesn't do anything for anyone per se, you still have to figure out how to play the game. Nothing about isboxer or PLEX or being able to use multiple accounts is pay to win (and like DaReaper said, their is nothing to win anyways lol).

I can tell from you rant of an OP that the base emotion here isn't sadness, but envy , because if it was anger or 'sadness', that would have spurred you to gather friends and slaughter the isboxing blasphemer. Anger and sadness spur action, Envy spurs General discussion forum rants aimed at getting CCP to 'fix' for you a 'problem' you should be tackling yourself.

Good, that's a start, at least you are learning.

if you want to gimp yourself by playing on one account in a game where COMPETITIVE PEOPLE multibox, that is no one's fault but your own. Of course, it's easier to cry about it like a child on some forums.

I multibox because it makes game tasks a slightly less awful (lvl 5s and 10/10s are painful with 1 character) but also because my competition (other explorers) are doing it also. if you want to play with the big boys, get big boy toys, no one promised you solo gameplay heaven.



So you can't gather 14 friends and/or get isboxer yourself (since you want to compete with someone using isboxer)? Inadequacy and incompetence aren't the right words then, too bad the right words aren't allowed here.