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Nemah Xadi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-11-15 01:06:11 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I enjoy mining. 6 of my toons are dedicated towards mining and this one is towards combat. but I have to spend a lot of time mining just to pay for PLEXES when i could be using those minerals for my industry goals. all due to the super inflated price of PLEX.


You are your own worst enemy. Train those 6 characters into catalysts and go gank other multiboxers instead.
Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#22 - 2014-11-15 01:17:42 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
pretty sure 90% of the people you think are causing a problem are doing the same thing you are. mining.

if you all stopped mining just to PLEX, the price of PLEX might go down.

that's not irony



well i mine so i can build ships to go pvp with. but i have to plex my toons so i also mine so i can plex.

Nemah Xadi wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I enjoy mining. 6 of my toons are dedicated towards mining and this one is towards combat. but I have to spend a lot of time mining just to pay for PLEXES when i could be using those minerals for my industry goals. all due to the super inflated price of PLEX.


You are your own worst enemy. Train those 6 characters into catalysts and go gank other multiboxers instead.


how am i my own worst enemy
Derath Ellecon
Lotek Academy
#23 - 2014-11-15 05:54:34 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
Awesome MILF wrote:
in fact I'm surprised PLEX doesnt cost like 3b, provided most people brag about earning hundreds of millions passively every day.

Xanato Kaso wrote:
I have 7 accounts. its getting rediculous. I have to spend so much time playing the game doing what i dont want just so i can play the game. and each month its costing more and more time. why? cus some buttheads want to have phat bank sucks.


may I suggest STOP the obsession and play the GAME? There's no way you ENJOY eve online if you run 7 accounts. You have converted the game into a JOB.

stop it mate.



I enjoy mining. 6 of my toons are dedicated towards mining and this one is towards combat. but I have to spend a lot of time mining just to pay for PLEXES when i could be using those minerals for my industry goals. all due to the super inflated price of PLEX.


It's more the fact that you picked one of the lowest isk activities in the game
Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#24 - 2014-11-15 09:15:45 UTC
Bl1SkR1N wrote:
Too much money poured into economy
But what's changed in the past month that caused this spike? I don't remember any new faucets being introduced.
Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#25 - 2014-11-15 10:49:23 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:
Awesome MILF wrote:
in fact I'm surprised PLEX doesnt cost like 3b, provided most people brag about earning hundreds of millions passively every day.

Xanato Kaso wrote:
I have 7 accounts. its getting rediculous. I have to spend so much time playing the game doing what i dont want just so i can play the game. and each month its costing more and more time. why? cus some buttheads want to have phat bank sucks.


may I suggest STOP the obsession and play the GAME? There's no way you ENJOY eve online if you run 7 accounts. You have converted the game into a JOB.

stop it mate.



I enjoy mining. 6 of my toons are dedicated towards mining and this one is towards combat. but I have to spend a lot of time mining just to pay for PLEXES when i could be using those minerals for my industry goals. all due to the super inflated price of PLEX.


It's more the fact that you picked one of the lowest isk activities in the game


I enjoy mining, I just dont enjoy having the fruits of my labor get wasted on PLEX, and then having to waste even more because someone felt like manipulating the market.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#26 - 2014-11-15 11:53:35 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I enjoy mining, I just dont enjoy having the fruits of my labor get wasted on PLEX, and then having to waste even more because someone felt like manipulating the market.


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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#27 - 2014-11-15 12:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Xanato Kaso wrote:

I enjoy mining, I just dont enjoy having the fruits of my labor get wasted on PLEX, and then having to waste even more because someone felt like manipulating the market.


You know, you could leave the typical miner victim mentality and actually deal with what you don't like?

It's markets.

As the guy who teached me RL trading always tells: "trading is about money and facts. All the rest is fluff and empty talk".

You are on Market Discussion, where money talks. Slam your money on the table and teach'em a lesson. Or don't, and keep posting about your impotence on a forum for what it can help you (hint: it doesn't).
Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#28 - 2014-11-15 12:32:52 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I enjoy mining, I just dont enjoy having the fruits of my labor get wasted on PLEX, and then having to waste even more because someone felt like manipulating the market.


Have you considered subscribing with cash? Instant solution.




Yeah I am legally disabled, unable to work going through chemotherapy and on an extremely fixxed income with no way to change it. Paying for EVE is not possible. The only reason I am able to play is because of PLEX
Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#29 - 2014-11-15 12:37:50 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:

I enjoy mining, I just dont enjoy having the fruits of my labor get wasted on PLEX, and then having to waste even more because someone felt like manipulating the market.


You know, you could leave the typical miner victim mentality and actually deal with what you don't like?

It's markets.

As the guy who teached me RL trading always tells: "trading is about money and facts. All the rest is fluff and empty talk".

You are on Market Discussion, where money talks. Slam your money on the table and teach'em a lesson. Or don't, and keep posting about your impotence on a forum for what it can help you (hint: it doesn't).



I understand that there are better ways to make ISK than mining. BUT I DO NOT ENJOY DOING THEM. And I did not come here whining about my miner woes. I came on here to discuss the PLEX prices
Nemah Xadi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-11-15 16:10:29 UTC
Wouldn't play this game unless I could plex my accounts either. But there are other free games out there when the eve grind gets too boring. And I've quit eve before. So can you.
Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#31 - 2014-11-15 16:32:48 UTC
Nemah Xadi wrote:
Wouldn't play this game unless I could plex my accounts either. But there are other free games out there when the eve grind gets too boring. And I've quit eve before. So can you.



oh ive quit eve a couple of times. my account has been around since 2011 but I only have 20m sp. and this is the only character on the account
Waltaratzor
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
#32 - 2014-11-15 17:06:54 UTC
Plex prices have been increasing because CCP has consistently made everything else easier to acquire. There have been a series of changes over the years that have made high sec in particular easier and less risky. PLEX on the other hand is has a fixed RL value and is constantly being removed from the economy. I would also speculate that supply isn't very elastic when it comes to plex, so price changes happen fairly rapidly on the demand side of the equation.

Its not surprising plex prices rise then.
Angelica Everstar
#33 - 2014-11-15 17:24:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Everstar
Xanato Kaso wrote:
Why are they going up so fast??? Last month when I plexxed my accounts i was getting them for around 780m ea. Now they are running almost 900m!!!!


"PLEX are to damn expensive !!!"


Like I have said so many times before...
When we hit 300m, 400m, 500m, 600m, 800m and more.


"Just wait, it's going to go higher. The market is not done yet".

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Derath Ellecon
Lotek Academy
#34 - 2014-11-15 18:52:00 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:

I enjoy mining, I just dont enjoy having the fruits of my labor get wasted on PLEX, and then having to waste even more because someone felt like manipulating the market.


You know, you could leave the typical miner victim mentality and actually deal with what you don't like?

It's markets.

As the guy who teached me RL trading always tells: "trading is about money and facts. All the rest is fluff and empty talk".

You are on Market Discussion, where money talks. Slam your money on the table and teach'em a lesson. Or don't, and keep posting about your impotence on a forum for what it can help you (hint: it doesn't).



I understand that there are better ways to make ISK than mining. BUT I DO NOT ENJOY DOING THEM. And I did not come here whining about my miner woes. I came on here to discuss the PLEX prices


But how you make your isk is completely relevant to the discussion. Yes there is market manipulation. But there are also plenty of people willing and able to pay the high PLEX prices. Largely because they make better isk/hr than a miner.

If you choose a low income profession you have to accept you may need to live on less.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-11-15 21:02:18 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I came on here to discuss the PLEX prices

So what do you want to discuss about PLEX prices?

The reasons for potentially high prices have been explained in this thread, one of those probably responsible for turning that potential into a reality has stepped forward and told you that prices will continue to rise, and finally RAW has pointed out that prices might at some point be allowed to crash so people can restock. There even was a morally dubious "How to earn money with PLEX without doing anything or taking any risks" section.

If you are looking for a discussion thread then put something forward that can be discussed. If you are looking for commiseration (regarding the price of PLEX - we all hope that your health will improve) then you have posted in the wrong subforum.

.

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#36 - 2014-11-16 07:23:30 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
The only reason I am able to play is because of PLEX
I have sympathy with your situation.

In the real world I'm semi-retired and have to live on an income 1/4 of what I was earning a few years ago. If PLEX was not an option, EVE would not be an option for me. I also have very little interest in playing EVE with only one account. I've had to cut down to 8 accounts from a much larger number in recognition of the rising costs and dwindling utility of those additional accounts.

Both of us serve at the pleasure of the PLEX market.

All I can suggest is that you look into the options for what you can do in parallel with your core gaming experience using the multiple accounts you have to make a little more isk on the side and ease the burden on your mining income.
Bl1SkR1N
13th HOUR
#37 - 2014-11-16 09:15:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Bl1SkR1N
Jurico Elemenohpe wrote:
Bl1SkR1N wrote:
Too much money poured into economy
But what's changed in the past month that caused this spike? I don't remember any new faucets being introduced.


Well plex has been on growth longer time. Negative inpact could be caused by activities like incursions that pour direct isk into economy, instead of rewards like LP which cause money ciruclation. Or lot of renters, combinated with not so many explosions in null sec warfare(pre-phoebe).

Increase in recent price growth could be because of people stacking up plexes...after all, they have been on the rise for a long time, so it makes good investment option. If you going out of eve, you just put your cash into plexes and when you get back you cash out the profit. But that's generally known...question is when will it reach critical limit and then the bubble pops :3 hopefully :D
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#38 - 2014-11-16 11:54:55 UTC
Awesome MILF wrote:

may I suggest STOP the obsession and play the GAME? There's no way you ENJOY eve online if you run 7 accounts. You have converted the game into a JOB.

stop it mate.


Sorry, but you don't know the correlation between enjoyment and account numbers for people other than yourself.

Xanato: if you enjoy mining then what's wrong with mining so you can mine more? If you don't enjoy doing that, then there's other ways that require very little effort that you can do while mining to increase your income :).
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#39 - 2014-11-16 12:08:10 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
there's other ways that require very little effort that you can do while mining to increase your income :).
Trading
Manufacturing
Blueprint research
Invention
PI

Any one of these can be set up to run in the background, using the resources you already pay for in having multiple accounts.

They need not distract you from your core gameplay, they just have to contribute to paying for it.
Athanor Ruthoern
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-11-16 17:02:55 UTC
Another factor to put into condieration is dual character training and it has become more popular to have multiple character for dual boxing with multi boxing hardware and software becoming legal. CCp has formerly confirmed that they keept plex prices artificially low with confiscaded it is unknown ot me if this stil is the case or the stopped with it.