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Cap'n Schmitty
#101 - 2014-11-14 22:29:32 UTC
Something else that may or may not be noteworthy - there's a new worrmhole in Orduin, signature ID CAZ-324. It leads to J113820, a C1 system with no effects. I found 4 other wormholes in that system: 2 led to C5 space, but were small-ship wormholes that my Stratios couldn't fit through. Of the others, one led to J141019, another effectless C1, and one led to Palpis, a high-security system in Devoid that is currently being subjected to a Sansha incursion. I didn't go any deeper than that, but others are free to as long as the wormhole in Orduin remains.
Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#102 - 2014-11-15 05:00:37 UTC
Tick-tock said the clock,
bashing 'gainst the wall;
Tick-tock said the clock,
watching as you FALL

Hilen... so long forgotten... so far away; so not so far astray.

Quote:
It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.


Knocking, knocking, on the wall; who will let me in? Knocking, knocking, on the wall; did you find my skin? I gave it to a man one day as he asked me for the time; I gave it gladly, in exchange for mine. Sleeping, sleeping, I did find that I did not know whom to mind. Not the doorman, not the architect, not the man behind the lie. To tell the truth, I lost mine too, and did not have the time.

Vieve, my dear, you have the answers but no questions.

The conceit herein must be that we accept your authority on your word alone, while you offer nothing in return. "Don't play here because I said." Speaking for CONCORD no doubt. Oh yes, of course! Silly me.

The Sleepers, you see, aren't dead. They aren't voiceless. They aren't helpless. They just look at us in a different way than we look at them. If an infection invades your body, you don't speak to it. You remove the source of infection. That's what DED is concerned about. If this is not Hilen Tukoss, who could it be? Who could have that kind of access? None of those answers are in any way, shape or form "good".

You also know, Vieve, that the list of possibilities is very short as to whom this could possibly be. The thinker, the adventurer or the dreamer? Or maybe one more who has to be around because his actions speak louder than words. The one who opened the door.

As they say, nothing comes without a price, and what was his price for entrance?

Knocking, knocking, on the wall...
Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#103 - 2014-11-15 06:23:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Siobhan MacLeary
I find myself daily becoming more fearful for Dr. Tukoss' well-being.

I'm enlisting the manpower of Ocularis Inferno - if we run across anything of especial interest in a Wolf-Rayet system, I'll let someone know.

E: Regarding who may be holding Dr. Tukoss captive, the incomplete phrase ending with an 's' could be any group that is pluralized in that manner - Sleepers, Sisters, or Guristas come to mind most readily. Sansha's Nation is too easy a scapegoat, in my opinion.

Thinking about it a bit, Sleepers seem unlikely - the drones appear to have some volition, primarily regarding target acquisition and tactics, but not enough 'free' intelligence to enact a kidnapping. Meanwhile, their creators are most likely doing what the name suggests - sleeping.

The Guristas...I really can't imagine a reason for the Guristas to hold Dr. Tukoss.

That leaves, to me, only the Sisters as a credible captor, especially given their recent involvement in matters concerning Sleepers, Anoikis, and wormholes.

Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave

EdXell
Perkone
Caldari State
#104 - 2014-11-15 07:19:05 UTC
Quote:
E: Regarding who may be holding Dr. Tukoss captive, the incomplete phrase ending with an 's' could be any group that is pluralized in that manner - Sleepers, Sisters, or Guristas come to mind most readily. Sansha's Nation is too easy a scapegoat, in my opinion.

Thinking about it a bit, Sleepers seem unlikely - the drones appear to have some volition, primarily regarding target acquisition and tactics, but not enough 'free' intelligence to enact a kidnapping. Meanwhile, their creators are most likely doing what the name suggests - sleeping.

The Guristas...I really can't imagine a reason for the Guristas to hold Dr. Tukoss.

That leaves, to me, only the Sisters as a credible captor, especially given their recent involvement in matters concerning Sleepers, Anoikis, and wormholes.


But if it was sisters surely they'd be able to impersonate him without all that hexadecimal stuff. The communications we've received from the fake Dr. Tukoss (assuming that this one's real) suggest an alien intelligence imitating our speech. In my opinion at this point the most likely suspects are either Sleepers or some other group that we haven't met yet.

I might have the wrong idea about all this, I've only just started following the Arek'Jaalan project and I've been absent from galactic affairs for a while. I don't have access to the same resources as some of you but if I happen to find myself in a Wolf-Rayet system I'll certainly keep an eye open for anything suspicious.
Serinas Setzuni
#105 - 2014-11-15 08:04:39 UTC
I have potentially decoded this translation:

I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.

(rogue d r o ne)s seems to fit in the empty space....
Quattras Peione
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#106 - 2014-11-15 10:11:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Quattras Peione
I believe you to be half right, Mademoiselle MacLeary.

As has been previously pointed out, we are dealing with at least two unknown parties in this - Dr. Tukoss' captors, and the occupants of the heretofore unknown system identified in the first transmission.

I would like to expand upon Monsieur Antolliere's suggestions. As he pointed out, the fact that the original message sender was under the impression that we (capsuleers) were behind the colonization of these systems indicates that those responsible for said colonization operate within New Eden. Of interest is the second message's use of the phrase "particular interest." Why is it that this system interests him so? Is this colonization of a greater scope than standard operations of capsuleer organizations in high-class wormholes? This would necessitate considerable resources, as well as the influence on other organizations to keep things quiet.

Also, to access these systems would obviously require cutting-edge scanning technology and the highly-trained personnel required to use it, or it would already be a regular hangout for one capsuleer organization or another. My first suspicion was that one Empire or another was doing surreptitious business in unknown space. Yes, Commander Kim, my earliest suspicion was in fact the Federation, but let us not forget that our own State has a history of creating colonies in secret.

It struck me, though, that the Servant Sisters of Eve are better poised to be in this position. It is ships of their design to which capsuleers turn first when embarking upon an exploration mission. This gives them the equipment necessary and the piles of ISK that keep flowing in as we continue purchasing exploration craft.

This indicates to me that, yes, the Sisters do play a significant role in this, but not the role you believe. They occupy at least one of the Anoikis systems of which we were unaware. The identity of Dr. Tukoss' captors, however, I cannot elucidate.

Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione

No, I'm not that kind of doctor.

Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
#107 - 2014-11-15 11:08:00 UTC
The suspicions about the Sisters are troubling. I work with them on a daily basis, and helped their research more than once.
They could definetly have hidden something from me, as I'm far from having ears everywhere, but why not enlisting me, since wormhole theory is my field of expertise?

I will ask my Sisters contacts in the teams studying the EVE Gate.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#108 - 2014-11-15 11:34:13 UTC
Gehen Sealbreaker wrote:
The suspicions about the Sisters are troubling. I work with them on a daily basis, and helped their research more than once.
They could definetly have hidden something from me, as I'm far from having ears everywhere, but why not enlisting me, since wormhole theory is my field of expertise?

I will ask my Sisters contacts in the teams studying the EVE Gate.


Perhaps this is out of place but...

Asking a Sisters of Eve personnel if the Sisters are conducting covert operations which may or may not have involved the capture of a certain doctor is not likely to net you anything other than a denial, truth or not. Further, it could alert them to suspicion and make the entire situation even more delicate.

I suggest keeping suspicion to yourself and simply watching with a more wary gaze for the answers you seek.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Anslo
Scope Works
#109 - 2014-11-15 13:26:42 UTC
Deceiver's Echo wrote:
Tick-tock said the clock,
bashing 'gainst the wall;
Tick-tock said the clock,
watching as you FALL

Hilen... so long forgotten... so far away; so not so far astray.

Quote:
It has come to the attention of the Directive Enforcement Department that a number of individuals have been donating items to a resource drop in Site One in the Eram system. We are also aware this effort is taking place at the request of an ambiguously identified person. The DED would like to take the opportunity to strongly advise against this course of action until such time as the identity of the person initiating this effort can be verified.


Knocking, knocking, on the wall; who will let me in? Knocking, knocking, on the wall; did you find my skin? I gave it to a man one day as he asked me for the time; I gave it gladly, in exchange for mine. Sleeping, sleeping, I did find that I did not know whom to mind. Not the doorman, not the architect, not the man behind the lie. To tell the truth, I lost mine too, and did not have the time.

Vieve, my dear, you have the answers but no questions.

The conceit herein must be that we accept your authority on your word alone, while you offer nothing in return. "Don't play here because I said." Speaking for CONCORD no doubt. Oh yes, of course! Silly me.

The Sleepers, you see, aren't dead. They aren't voiceless. They aren't helpless. They just look at us in a different way than we look at them. If an infection invades your body, you don't speak to it. You remove the source of infection. That's what DED is concerned about. If this is not Hilen Tukoss, who could it be? Who could have that kind of access? None of those answers are in any way, shape or form "good".

You also know, Vieve, that the list of possibilities is very short as to whom this could possibly be. The thinker, the adventurer or the dreamer? Or maybe one more who has to be around because his actions speak louder than words. The one who opened the door.

As they say, nothing comes without a price, and what was his price for entrance?

Knocking, knocking, on the wall...

Wat

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#110 - 2014-11-15 13:44:16 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Wat

You're a silly.
Anslo
Scope Works
#111 - 2014-11-15 13:45:36 UTC
Heya Shelby! Great seein ya again.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#112 - 2014-11-15 14:12:44 UTC
Thanks! It's nice to see you too!

Well, like kinda see you! I'm still stuck in this station thing using my datapad to catch up on things. It's like some kind of medical room or somethin'. I can see my sisters cryo-pods, they still asleep. Well, all except Erica 'cause like she woke me up.

I can see her kredit card too! It's sitting on a table across the room. Can't wait to get my hands on it haha.
Anslo
Scope Works
#113 - 2014-11-15 14:14:23 UTC
Tell Erica I said hey, please?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#114 - 2014-11-15 14:15:39 UTC
Sure thing Mista Anslo!!
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#115 - 2014-11-15 14:54:19 UTC
Serinas Setzuni wrote:
I have potentially decoded this translation:

I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.

(rogue d r o ne)s seems to fit in the empty space....

Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart.

Quattras Peione wrote:
Also, to access these systems would obviously require cutting-edge scanning technology and the highly-trained personnel required to use it, or it would already be a regular hangout for one capsuleer organization or another. My first suspicion was that one Empire or another was doing surreptitious business in unknown space. Yes, Commander Kim, my earliest suspicion was in fact the Federation, but let us not forget that our own State has a history of creating colonies in secret.

It struck me, though, that the Servant Sisters of Eve are better poised to be in this position. It is ships of their design to which capsuleers turn first when embarking upon an exploration mission. This gives them the equipment necessary and the piles of ISK that keep flowing in as we continue purchasing exploration craft.

This indicates to me that, yes, the Sisters do play a significant role in this, but not the role you believe. They occupy at least one of the Anoikis systems of which we were unaware. The identity of Dr. Tukoss' captors, however, I cannot elucidate.

Yeah, can't even imagine that SOE would be involved in a hostage situation like this. If they are, I guess I'm burning my tee-shirt.
Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2014-11-15 15:28:09 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart.

You do not need to be smart in order to follow instructions. Following instructions does not require asking questions. Questions hardly ever lead to answers that you want. If you don't want answers how can you be disappointed?

Unit A requests X information from Unit B. It either gives the information or it doesn't. It does not give Y if X is what is asked for.

I like drones. They're far more reliable than people. People ask questions. People get disappointed. People take away your paints. They said I could have my paints back if I helped answer the questions but I never got my paints back. Do you know where they are? I would really like my paints back.
Gehen Sealbreaker
Sealbreaker Labs
#117 - 2014-11-15 15:38:10 UTC
Liam Antolliere wrote:
Gehen Sealbreaker wrote:
The suspicions about the Sisters are troubling. I work with them on a daily basis, and helped their research more than once.
They could definetly have hidden something from me, as I'm far from having ears everywhere, but why not enlisting me, since wormhole theory is my field of expertise?

I will ask my Sisters contacts in the teams studying the EVE Gate.


Perhaps this is out of place but...

Asking a Sisters of Eve personnel if the Sisters are conducting covert operations which may or may not have involved the capture of a certain doctor is not likely to net you anything other than a denial, truth or not. Further, it could alert them to suspicion and make the entire situation even more delicate.

I suggest keeping suspicion to yourself and simply watching with a more wary gaze for the answers you seek.


I understand your concern, but don't worry. I did not really planned to barge in the offices of the highest-ranking officer who would see me and start asking questions.

We tend to forget, as capsuleers, dealing with only a handful of people, that there are other humans, not as gifted maybe, but with hearts, families, and, often, troubles. And what may seem to be a negligible price to replace a ship module to us can mean the world to an ordinary man, who would instantly be able to reimburse debts, buy better healthcare, change living quarters, etc.

Believe me, the reason non-capsuleer personnel is kept to a minimum and well paid at Sealbreaker Labs is because they are a far greater backdoor than one would think.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#118 - 2014-11-15 17:01:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaret Victorian
Deceiver's Echo wrote:
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart.

You do not need to be smart in order to follow instructions. Following instructions does not require asking questions. Questions hardly ever lead to answers that you want. If you don't want answers how can you be disappointed?

Unit A requests X information from Unit B. It either gives the information or it doesn't. It does not give Y if X is what is asked for.

I like drones. They're far more reliable than people. People ask questions. People get disappointed. People take away your paints. They said I could have my paints back if I helped answer the questions but I never got my paints back. Do you know where they are? I would really like my paints back.

A portion of rogue drones, captured and "tamed" by some entity? Now that makes sense.

People probably sold your paints for profits long time ago. I'm sorry.
Serinas Setzuni
#119 - 2014-11-15 18:22:36 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Serinas Setzuni wrote:
I have potentially decoded this translation:

I beli(eve my cap)tors to be (----- - - - --)s, fear(ful of the e)vent (now t)ranspiring, and (are in a st)ate of (pa)nic.

(rogue d r o ne)s seems to fit in the empty space....

Unlikely. I believe there is no pattern in here, those are just interferences. That and rogue drones are not that smart.


Having thought about this a bit longer, other possibilities include:

(rogue a g e nt)s (The question becomes whose agents...?)
(rogue C C P AI)s (With the recent disbanding of their alliance, anything is possible. They also have a history of not always communicating with the rest of the capsuleers in a normal manner... P)
(----- S O E --)s (Sisters of Eve... Why would they be in a panic?)
(----- D E D --)s (I could see them being a bit worried lately, but why would they want Jovian DNA? Why would they ask us to stop delivering it if it's them, unless they have already gathered enough?)

If the spaces aren't there by accident, the midle three - - - are most likely the initials of some organization, group, or something else... Figuring out what that something or someone is will probably reveal a lot more about Mr. Tukoss' whereabouts...
Deceiver's Echo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#120 - 2014-11-15 19:26:44 UTC
Apologies for my prior interactions. I'm still adjusting to new medication and the guards have finally been told to point their weapons elsewhere.

Serinas Setzuni wrote:
If the spaces aren't there by accident, the midle three - - - are most likely the initials of some organization, group, or something else... Figuring out what that something or someone is will probably reveal a lot more about Mr. Tukoss' whereabouts...

Obviously packet loss due to using burst transmission as opposed to standard transmission. I would surmise that this is due to time limits and an attempt to get a message out as quickly as possible. Poor man obviously has to resort to crude methods. I mean, emergency FTL channels? Really?

Perhaps we should wait until Mr. Tukoss can find a stable node that he actually knows how to use. Though I must say, it's odd that he knows that there is previous transmissions and that those transmissions are clear, while this one is not.

If he knows of the prior communications, how was his ID used?
If this is the same transmission technique as the previous messages, why is this one garbled?

It points to two things. First, the previous communications can be seen as hacks of CONCORD systems. If this is Rogue Drones, as has been previously asserted, this would explain pretty much everything. We know Rogue Drones have the ability to "brute force" hack stargates, and have at least passing familiarity with CONCORD systems.

Second, we can compare and contrast this message to the previous ones. This one seems more like the good ol' Hilen Tukoss we love to despise. The previous ones do not. The previous communications are cold and emotionless.

Finally, aside from the two conclusions above, we should perhaps not try to "fill in the blanks". It's not like his message has brought up new questions. It hasn't. It's only highlighted concerns previously addressed. Even our resident DED mouthpiece/tool Ms. Creston is echoing what others have said.

We've got nothin' we didn't have before, ladies and gentlemen.

And then there's the most important concern of all. I still don't have my paints. They're a nice shiny bright red. They change color when you use them though, so the art is only able to be appreciated for a short time. I really miss my paints. It's a complete travesty that I am not aloud to follow my muse, that sweet little voice incessantly nagging and pleading and screaming, don't you think?