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CODE. Suicide Ganking is out of hand

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#61 - 2014-11-12 19:31:16 UTC
It sounds like you took a canned extortion attempt personally. That's kind of a you problem.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#62 - 2014-11-12 19:31:39 UTC
CODE Agent AC wrote:
I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner!


Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going?

Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style Shocked. Might I suggest beam zealots?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#63 - 2014-11-12 19:32:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I told you before veers narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you


Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head Roll....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online.

No veers that actually proves that we can't even pay someone to spend time on you.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#64 - 2014-11-12 19:33:25 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It sounds like you took a canned extortion attempt personally. That's kind of a you problem.


Yep, multiple front page mentions on their website, a 2 hour TS session, a 32 page bounty thread, 1 bil in bounty.....it wasn't personal at all....just the standard sales pitch Roll

I guess part of the problem is that the folks I dealt with the most never seem to log on anymore. It's hard to keep track with all the new faces. It would be nice to have a stable leadership team.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#65 - 2014-11-12 19:35:04 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I told you before veers narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you


Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head Roll....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online.

No veers that actually proves that we can't even pay someone to spend time on you.


That's because the people you tried to pay face the same problem you do - the complete inability to actually go after an elite PvE player like me. Your wardecc plan failed (roll corp ftw!), I quickly rejected the few would be awoxxers, I'm a massive specialist at fitting ships properly and avoiding would be gankers. Facing those impossible odds, who would really want to come after me?
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#66 - 2014-11-12 19:38:14 UTC
rag week Tears?. you are coming across quite tetchy Lol
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#67 - 2014-11-12 19:42:02 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
rag week Tears?. you are coming across quite tetchy Lol

Shark week as my Partner calls it.
this should help.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#68 - 2014-11-12 19:43:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Veers Belvar wrote:
Well the insults started well before, if you care to read back...I am certainly entitled to defend myself, and will continue doing so. And the threats of retaliation for not following the troll "code" are legion, and all hot air.
Regardless of who started the insults, you're failing to stick to the standards to which you hold others, which makes you a hypocrite.

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It turns out they don't have the competence to actually go after people who are expert at the game, like myself.
ROFL, the only thing you're an expert is flattering your own ego. Virtually every post you make makes your claim to be an expert at Eve laughable and ridiculous.

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So they will continue to go after new/casual players
You made up that particular demographic, since when did newbies fly mining barges and freighters? How do you define casual?

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collect tears, and eventually have CCP nerf their playstyle into oblivion.
Not likely to happen. Gankers mainly prey on those that can't be bothered to be at the keyboard or educate themselves about the nature of the game, neither of which can be fixed by nerfing ganking. CCP can't fix laziness or stupidity, not even your deity of choice can do that.

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Remind you much of the awoxxers?
Nope, the criminal element will adapt to the proposed changes, as they have to every other change. People who can't be arsed to protect themselves will still explode, and then cry on the forums about how unfair it is that others can make their spaceships explode in a game where spaceships explode.

Every nerf to highsec criminals has invariably backfired on those that called for it. If the proposed changes come to fruition I fully expect to see highsec criminals up their game and make those who are trying to get them nerfed pay the price for doing so.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#69 - 2014-11-12 19:46:58 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
rag week Tears?. you are coming across quite tetchy Lol


Tetchy? Not sure what that means.

I am obviously bothered by how Code/Goons continue to go after new/casual players, blow up their haulers, bankrupt them, and cause them to ragequit the game. I think that is fundamentally bad for Eve, and am happy to be a voice opposing the senseless violence.

i hope the coming awoxx changes are the first step in creating a liveable and law abiding highsec...where crime is the exception - not the norm...and groups like CODE are properly brought to justice.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#70 - 2014-11-12 19:49:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
Kajurei Delainen wrote:
Just through observation, CODE. continued to slaughter barges. With the varying number of kills, it is clear that these victims were not afkers, freighters don't go afk at belts, they were all people just paying CCP to play the game.

And talk of tanking your mining barge against high alpha damage is false, that damage can not be tanked.

Whole sale destruction like this isn't good for business. CCP is trying to get more people to play a game, and when people find out that they are paying money to get everything stolen from them in hi-sec space, they take their subscription money and go play a different game.

Allowing this type of game play to continue is Bad for Business; for CCP and for our player base.

Driving away paying customers is self-destructive.

Allow me to whip this out...
All of the wrong in one neat little bundle.
Freighters do not go afk at belts, but sometimes their pilots go afk and turn on autopilot... or plot crappy routes through known chokepoints and not bother to use scouts or webbers to fast warp them through.

Alpha damage can be tanked, there's these things called resistances... you jack them up vs the popular alpha damage types and suddenly that's not so very much. even a 75% reduction vs whatever reduces your alpha vs whatever by oh, 75%. Couple that with a healthy buffer and omg you just crafted a viable tank.

Wholesale destruction is AWESOME for business, in game and out. In game it keeps the market flowing with increased demand for derpfitted barges and haulers. Out of game it helps enhance EVE's 'dirty girl who will cut you' reputation in the MMO market.

If this really bugs you, and I mean this with no animosity, perhaps EVE isn't the game for you. STO, the various other space sims, or hell, even an Earth and Beyond emulator might be more your speed.

Edit: I concede my own wrongness on freighters afk'ing in belts. I had no idea. I am simply gobsmacked at the sheer stupidity of this kind of act, I had simply assumed nobody was dumb enough to do that.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#71 - 2014-11-12 19:54:22 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game.

The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact

Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE.


I agree. Autopilot should be removed from the game. And mining should be a mini-game like hacking.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#72 - 2014-11-12 19:56:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Veers Belvar wrote:
I am obviously bothered by how Code/Goons continue to go after new/casual players, blow up their haulers, bankrupt them, and cause them to ragequit the game.
Citation needed, you also need to define the new/casual player demographic, as it's a term you made up and that nobody else uses.

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I think that is fundamentally bad for Eve, and am happy to be a voice opposing the senseless violence.
I think that your moral crusade is fundamentally bad for Eve, which is why I am happy to be a voice of reason opposing the incredible amount of dumb you and your ilk display.

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i hope the coming proposed awoxx changes
FTFY

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the first step in creating a liveable and law abiding highsec...where crime is the exception - not the norm...and groups like CODE are properly brought to justice.
The first step would be you stepping up to the mark and actually doing something ingame, it is not up to CCP to provide, it is up to the players. Welcome to the sandbox.

TL;DR Put up or shut up.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#73 - 2014-11-12 19:57:16 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game.

The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact

Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE.


I agree. Autopilot should be removed from the game. And mining should be a mini-game like hacking.


Agree on mining, though I'd prefer that it be removed from the game entirely.

As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel.
Cetaphil Thrace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-11-12 20:01:12 UTC
Agree, remove mining and the market controlling freaks. And just so we are clear. CODE does not target new people, they target any miner that is un aware period. If you afk anything in this game you deserve what you get.
CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#75 - 2014-11-12 20:02:07 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
CODE Agent AC wrote:
I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner!


Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going?

Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style Shocked. Might I suggest beam zealots?


Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do.

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#76 - 2014-11-12 20:03:44 UTC
You seem to be overly proud of the many pages on the thread about yer bounty. Now, if we were to subtract the anslo/counter anslo poasts from that, we'd be looking about oh about maybe 8 pages.

Buff autopilot? Surely you troll. It already got a buff, warp to 0. Way back in the day we all had to warp to 15km and pray to Yog Sothoth that we wouldn't get popped before we hit the gate. Take a moment to contemplate your bad.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#77 - 2014-11-12 20:07:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
Veers Belvar wrote:
As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff it means that I can be lazy and watch a film or sleep while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into .


Fixed that for you.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#78 - 2014-11-12 20:07:46 UTC
CODE Agent AC wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
CODE Agent AC wrote:
I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner!


Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going?

Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style Shocked. Might I suggest beam zealots?


Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do.


So you admit to being easily distracted by shiny objects? Killing haulers is not bringing highsec into code compliance, you have been doing it for months and the trends are staying the same. Until you engage the elite PvE targets you have no hope of success.
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#79 - 2014-11-12 20:08:02 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game.

The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact

Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE.


I agree. Autopilot should be removed from the game. And mining should be a mini-game like hacking.


Agree on mining, though I'd prefer that it be removed from the game entirely.

As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel.


You already have instant travel. Is it CCP's fault you CBA to set it up?
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#80 - 2014-11-12 20:09:03 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buffit means that I can be lazy and watch a film while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into .


Fixed that for you.


Confirming that "playing" Eve is fundamentally built around right clicking and pressing "jump" every 45 seconds. Doesn't sound like elite PvP or elite PvE, maybe we should call it elite Navigation?