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Null sec data and relic sites in wh
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Vesrand Davahan
Shadows of the Day
#1 - 2014-11-11 18:35:51 UTC
Why CCP did this? What was the point? Its so frustrating now. This sites brings no money and just consumes my time. Its just garbage in my wh. Now I cant live there normally because there are tons of such sites spawning in my wh all over the day. Cant CCP at least reduce its spawning rate so it will spawn at same rate as usual w-space data and relic sites?
Kiokan Voluva
Aurelian Industries
#2 - 2014-11-11 18:57:11 UTC
in my experience Null sec sites pays really well, are you sure you are doing them right? :)
Teleil Zoomers
Royal Sphynx Ltd
#3 - 2014-11-11 18:58:09 UTC
Shocked
Kynric
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#4 - 2014-11-11 19:16:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kynric
My team has enjoyed the feature. More stuff for ships to do in space is a welcome change.

The high spawn rate likely cooresponds to a high use rate.
unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-11 19:20:15 UTC
I just hope that it is a place holder and they will change it to wormhole specific sites that do the same.

No local in null sec would fix everything!
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2014-11-11 20:20:32 UTC
unimatrix0030 wrote:
I just hope that it is a place holder and they will change it to wormhole specific sites that do the same.


Basically the only valid complaint about CCP giving us more stuff to do.

I've made a few hundred million from casual hacking of these sites and upgraded three more pulse batteries of my tower to faction ones.
Vesrand Davahan
Shadows of the Day
#7 - 2014-11-11 21:45:23 UTC
I just did some statistics.
central serpentis data: 9min 45sec - 2.2kk
central angel data: 11min 30 sec - 5.3kk
ruined guristas relic: 9min - 3kk

So its about 20kk per hour - worse than anything!
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#8 - 2014-11-11 21:52:22 UTC
If you don't like them, you can despawn the sites by failing your hacking attempt at each can two times.

OR you wait for some k-space scrubs to come in and try your sites ... then you blow them up ;)
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#9 - 2014-11-12 13:04:00 UTC
Or you can leave the cans untouched and start mining in some. Just like scannable grav sites in the good old times. A little bit of extra safety.
Kev Ftw
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2014-11-12 19:37:53 UTC
Does anyone know if for example a Null Sec relic/data site in a C6 is more difficult/lucrative than in a C1, or are they just Null Sec level difficulty, regardless of the wh?
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-11-12 20:12:42 UTC  |  Edited by: MooMooDachshundCow
Vesrand Davahan wrote:
I just did some statistics.
central serpentis data: 9min 45sec - 2.2kk
central angel data: 11min 30 sec - 5.3kk
ruined guristas relic: 9min - 3kk

So its about 20kk per hour - worse than anything!


You're doing it wrong if you're clearing them. The best isk/hr from these sites comes from cargo scanning and just hacking the few cans worth something.

With this technique I made 100m isk from 2 cans by scanning 6 sites yesterday in about 15 minutes total (2 mins of actual hacking).

So... 100m in 15 minutes, but it's really a crap shoot.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-11-12 21:16:25 UTC
theyre free isk for lower end WHs *shrug* seems fine

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Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#13 - 2014-11-12 21:55:30 UTC
ugh ccp trying to introduce content. they are the worst.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#14 - 2014-11-12 23:42:43 UTC
Don't you dare take these away. best fun I've had with a Proteus ever.

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Elyas Crux
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-11-13 01:20:33 UTC
Vesrand Davahan wrote:
I just did some statistics.
central serpentis data: 9min 45sec - 2.2kk
central angel data: 11min 30 sec - 5.3kk
ruined guristas relic: 9min - 3kk

So its about 20kk per hour - worse than anything!


Use a cargo scanner on the hackable containers and you will know what loot is available 30 seconds after warping in.
The tools are there for you to use, but instead you bleat on the forums. *shrugs*
Vesrand Davahan
Shadows of the Day
#16 - 2014-11-13 15:32:28 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
Or you can leave the cans untouched and start mining in some. Just like scannable grav sites in the good old times. A little bit of extra safety.

Cant find any asteroids to mine in them:(

Yh cargo scanners are good, i should have used them. But still i think theese sites are annoying. They spawn to often and disrupts my farming because extra signature is always an alarm since it could be new k162.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#17 - 2014-11-13 16:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
We have found these an absolutely massive improvement to our experience,

1. Scanners when on early in the day have some income whilst doing a vital and thankless job.
2. When activity begins to rise later in the day large numbers of people are in them and searching for them. Excellent, now there is life in lower class holes and stuff to chase around and hunt.
3. Those shot bring friends, we bring more ships, big furballs of fun!

A minor addition that is having an effect far bigger than imagined +10Lol

This is what improving the PVE experience means, you have healthy vibrant alive prey, and the PVP will follow.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Furious Tichim
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#18 - 2014-11-15 02:21:58 UTC
Pro's:

Gives newbro's some solo content.

Gives a small incentive to scouts.

Indy guy seems to like em....

Ganks!

Cons;

Moar scanning?



PS; I pulled 88million from a single site....plus, Ganks!
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-11-16 15:47:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jur Tissant
On the contrary, I've always found my C2 data/relic sites to be extremely subpar. Null-class sites are a blessing, you can get tens of millions from one relic site without the hazard of venturing into null.

Plus blowing up ships is just such a nuisance.
Blake Nosferatu
Phoenix of the Black Sun
#20 - 2014-11-16 21:46:30 UTC
These null data/rellic sites in lower class wh's I have found are nothing more then awsomesauce. Good implementation ccp, well done. +1 for pvp and pve (yeah its mostly just frigs but it is still somthing to hunt pvp wise and or bait with).
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