EVE General Discussion

Seems like a little lore time:
Normal or covert cyno won't work because w-space are no one knows where except that they are far enough part for a cyno to not work from k-space or w-space.
Cyno doesn't work in empire because of cyno jammers placed in each "civilized" system that empire has namely that is high sec and obviously empires also have better cyno jammers then capsuleers since they work on covert cynos as well but then again who knows what else was scooped by the empires before "project Crielere" fell flat on it's face.

That's the lore part the actual in-game reason is that CCP just didn't want you to easy mode stuff into W-holes nor dropping bombers on miners in high sec.

Frankly, for now it's all postulating. We don't know until SISI just what the rules are. No Local, and big, That's all we know. The rest is up for grabs...

My hope is that since Fozzie mentioned that this is going to be a place of opportunity - and he laid a fairly loaded reference to industry - Thera's physics will allow cynos. And possibly disallow bubbles. So given the inferred size (400+ AU anyone?) of Thera's dimensions, that would give the indy guys enough wiggle room to make it work.

Then again, it may be that incoming Orcas get booted to 150km from the exit wormhole.

We simply don't know yet.

But I'll be on SISI finding out for sure. CCP have been doing a bloody good job of implementing recently, and "5th Space" is going to be a place of opportunity.

The one thing that I think could make it a center of trade, regardless of the risk from pirates, is if there was some game mechanic that made it SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper to manufacture there.

It will quickly become de-facto owned by one group, and occasionally change hands. It won't be anything like Jita, perhaps something closer to old VFK. It is human nature to secure advantages over your competition. If it can be secured, it will be, even if systems don't make it easy.

I have a strong hunch that anything worthwhile is going to be scattered mostly around the rim of the system, maximizing the difficulty of finding something and of getting people there quickly. That would best leverage some of the "natural advantages" the system would provide to free trade without too much in the way of artificial restrictions.

The 'advantage' to covert cyno is it allows Cyno without allowing capital. Only one ship can jump to a covert cyno, the Black Ops and very few ships can bridge to it. Ones with covert cloak options.



That was my original comment. It still stands. Note, there are two considerations there. The second one being the likely of the two and the result mentioned. They will become part of the blue donut, just like most of Null.

The WH corps/alliances should declare it a Porto Franco and enforce security in it.
After all, with this hub - wouldn't their economical reliance on K-Space be diminished significantly?

I mean now you will have the "high-bears" bringing goods at your doorstep day in and day out instead of the Holers having to find a way to Jita.

Depends on how many kspace exits it has at any given time, I suppose. Most 0.0 systems are , by definition, rather out of the way, making them unsuitable for use as a "hub" for the eve community as a whole. Jita, on the other hand, is in a geographically centralized location.

If it's got 20-30 kspace statics at a time, it'll be a hub of something for sure.

it's all about the kevin bacon factor. If those 20 connections connect every system by a KBF of 2-5, then it's a hub. If over 50% are greater than 15, then it's not as much a hub. All depends on it's reach.

Thera will NOT be the next Jita, it won't even be the next Dodixie or Rens. It will most likely end up being the next Rancer.

No one is going to jump bulk amounts of goods into a system where they can be killed at will. Capitals aren't allowed so you can't even do it with some sneaky cyno tactics. While there may be no static gates, considering it takes a good prober under a minutes to find a wormhole entrance/exit, they're will still be bubbles out the wahzoo on all exits. Thera is just going to turn into a massive battleground, probably between the big coalitions. Whoever controls that system would have a hub that exits to all corners of the galaxy and would thus be the most important strategic system in the entire EVE universe. It would also be one of the most valuable systems in the EVE universe simply due to the amount of content it would create. No more looking for a fight, there will be gangs from all over coming in to cause trouble, all the time. Single serving fights at a moments notice.

Thera is going to be the PVP arena of EVE, not the new market arena.