EVE General Discussion

The only way I can envision this system working is if there are a bare MINIMUM of 20 entrances into this wormhole and preferably fifty. Very few small groups would actually run sites in this system. This would be limited to larger corps/alliances that can actually provide security. The only way around this is if the site is going to be 1000AU across so it takes forever to actually find people with normal probes. Individuals and small groups who decide to reside here will be dependent on running sites in neighboring systems.
This is a problem because if there are a limited amount of exits they'll have to be fitted to get through camps but if they're fitted to get through camps then they won't be fitted to run sites. Having dozens of entrances could fix this issue however as all entrances are not likely to be camped.

Really we need to know more before we can gauge just how popular this system will be for small groups & solo folk.

Another "thunderdome", further perpetuating the systemic failure of CCP to create meaningful PvP blended seamlessly with basic income generation.

I mean, neat idea from a pure brawling perspective, but just more of the same in the grand scheme of things.

Love it when someone else summarizes my thoughts more or less exactly, and saves me the trouble.

I do hope that once it gets released on Sisi for testing that people will abuse the hell out of it, showcasing all the weak spots & such they can improve on to make it a dangerous system, without turning it into a slaughterfest system.

I see two things at least to make it work:
-No bubbles (else people will cage in the stations if the system ever takes off, and thereby nullify it)
-Powerful station guns, to prevent station games: while undock shouldn't be 100% danger free, it should at least not be a fire at will zone.

If people/CCP want to see it turn into a new Jita, traders have to be able to move in not only modules & resources, but also ships in large quantities & acceptable security (meaning it can be dangerous, but never too dangerous to offset profits, else there's no use setting up a tradepost there)

All in all, looking forward what it'll be.

Thera sounds like a very big step. There are a number of big steps afoot in CCP. The question for me is in which direction are we walking.

Please let this be part of a much bigger picture.

I see afk cloakers becoming more dangerous in this system, and at the same time becoming a non existent issue to everyone (figure that one out). Unscannable off grid boosters (if the system is massive) will have to be found via very fast interceptors. All they have to do to mitigate this is cloak or warp off really :/


I'm also curious to see if pirates decide to camp wormholes and try a toll system for neutrals. Wouldn't that be cool? Then again what am I thinking, they'll probably kill everything that can't kill them, or run away.

Disable bubbles, buff the guns (stuff others have suggested), and do something about off grid boosting otherwise it will probably be the "go too" complaint of why someone was beaten and blown up.

If the system is vast and entrances numerous. This could go very well, otherwise it'll be a glorified low-sec.



So for you it requires CONCORD and the ability to scam? I only see no concord as the only turn off to people so far.

Local, gone poof.

Yes that has been clarified a few times. How does that make afk cloakers more dangerous?

I'm picturing something maybe 50 million AU across with what? 150 stations? At least? I mean that is at the bare minimum what it would take. I could see living out of it. I'm going to give it a crack, for sure. Really to me it sounds like all of Fountain in one system plus you're in a wormhole. Seems like a lot of fun... and solves pretty much every problem with trying to be a pirate operating out of a wormhole. There will be pirates. Oh yes. ...but also wormhole ratters, some industrialists (full station services), campers of various kinds, hard-core PvPers, really crazy miners (bring support!), perhaps even mission runners. Depending on the design which we know very little about, you might even see every alliance finding a strategic advantage in keeping this or that fleet in the system. Nowhere else in EvE could you have so many players with so many totally different objectives (if any) in one system.

Really, I think most EvE players will have more reason to be in Thera than Jita.

This begs the question, how many pods we talking?

I'm not worried about PvPers, I'm worried about lag. How are they going to do this if there's 5k or 10k pods bopping around?

u wot m8 ?
Do you even realize how big 50 million AU is? At 3AU/s warpspeed it would take like 96 days 10 hours 48 minutes 53.33 seconds to warp half the system