EVE General Discussion

Did you check the entire system? Is it a possibility you could have missed some?

T-Space is going to be an interesting place. :)

I've been scanning thera over the last week:

3 low-statics, 3 null-statics are in there, no doubt.
2 more Q063s are cruisersized holes that connect to anywhere in K-space, not necessarily though to Highsec.

2 wandering holes in highsec (one large, one frigsized) exist.
5 wandering holes in wormholes (F135) connecting to Thera exist.

Then in addition, there seems to be atleast one frigsized hole in null and one in low connecting to Thera.

People that say Thera got two highsec-statics are wrong. Thera doesn't have a highsec static. Just that one static might connect to highsec.

imagine JITA 5-5 being hell bubbled...... no one can ever undock unless u have massive support fleet clearing the way out for da haulers................

I had a look at Thera on Singularity. It is hard to see how this will turn into another Jita. Sure, the stations will be stocked but the prices will be atrocious. The connections are:

Q063
This wormhole seems to lead into high security space.
Up to medium sized ships can pass through this wormhole.

V898
This wormhole seems to lead into low security space.
Larger ships can pass through this wormhole.

E587
This wormhole seems to lead into null security space.
Very large ships can pass through this wormhole.

Only the null E587 allows freighters through. This means that if you want to properly stock Thera with hulls you have three options:

1. Fly or jump your freighter to the null entry and come in through there.
2. Import hulls in a smaller industrial one at a time (for cruisers) or just fly them in manually.
3. Build them in Thera (which just removes the problem one level for material importation unless you are crazy enough to try and mine in this system).

This is disappointing. I was looking forward to the challenge of stocking this system but I think the risk is too high. I don’t understand why freighters would be excluded from low and highsec connections.

Does CCP think that the risk for freighters would be too low? It will be enormous regardless of where you jump in from. At least open up the lowsec connection please.

seriosuly? ... you think a couple more stations will make a difference to Alliances that field 1,000+ players? That live in systems with high populations ... entirely their own?

You think there is a difference between 1 and 4 stations?

20, maybe ... but not a handful. lol

Have to agree.

er ... if it's your base ... you'd not camp the enterances, granted ... but the stations, you would (and you only need to cover one of the two anyway to make it an unviable nuetral trade hub)... and ... why else does anyone blob a system in eve? ... to own it.. there's rarel;y any rationale reason besides that.

besides ... you don't need to perma'camp' it ... threat is enough. How many people don't undock if there's a single red in system? ... like I say ... not a viable nuetral trade hub. That's easy to happen for an allaince basing out of there. 100+ in system is all the camp you need, don't matter where they are, or cloaked, or docked, ... hub relies on traffic flow, and that just wouldn't happen to any industrialist. (import export wise) ...

assessing what we know, isn't . That's all I'm doing :) Based on what they have said and their spoken intent.

This much is true. And why it is not a bad idea. I'm not against this idea in anyway, all for new space and new toys. All I challenge at the moment is that it's said it will be a trade hub. If it is destined to be a trade hub, maybe the comments of logic will help it actually become a trade hub. Firstly, a tonne more stations (think Ammamake? that lo-sec system in minnie space with like 30,000 stations), 'and' some kind of station fighting nerf (be it guns, or range, or timer guns, or something) and some bonus to the WH's - maybe ... that cloakble ships don't need to de-cloak after jumping into system? That together with station guns, no bubbles, and access from across eve directly, would create a trade hub.

Of course ... I'll admit one thing actually. Trade hub. Funny. That doesn't actually specifiy 'what' is being traded .... one just assumes it's 'everything'. Could just be the control choke point of trdaing a certain sleeper or Jove technololgy. In which case, that is a very BIG reason why alliances will want to dominate it. Anyway ... what's the point of living if you can't specualte and gossip and imagine. Life would be very dull ... and no one would have said "Crazy idea guys, what about getting loads of people to pay for a game where they fly around in ships and blow each other up ..."

(yeah, that's been said better too ... the whole "EVE, the experiment where people pay to have a job" )