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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#361 - 2014-11-14 02:21:36 UTC
ggodhsup wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Anything else? Or can this painful back and forth end now?


plenty more.....im lurking in all your posts.


ahhh....elite PvP at it's finest....

People have an inordinate fear of AFK cloakers... but you madam have taken it one step further...to wit,

The AFK forum lurker.

Now that will truly cast terror into the hearts of Eve players everywhere.

GGWP
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#362 - 2014-11-14 04:46:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ggodhsup
Veers Belvar wrote:

ahhh....elite PvP at it's finest....






what do you know about that?.....
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#363 - 2014-11-14 05:23:55 UTC
ggodhsup wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

ahhh....elite PvP at it's finest....






what do you know about that?.....


I often buy faction ammo...and carefully look for the lowest price within a reasonable travel distance.
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#364 - 2014-11-14 05:31:34 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
ggodhsup wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

ahhh....elite PvP at it's finest....






what do you know about that?.....


I often buy faction ammo...and carefully look for the lowest price within a reasonable travel distance.



because that counts as elite pvp.....you should try low-sec sometime veers....i would love to tutor you.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#365 - 2014-11-14 05:56:56 UTC
ggodhsup wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
ggodhsup wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

ahhh....elite PvP at it's finest....






what do you know about that?.....


I often buy faction ammo...and carefully look for the lowest price within a reasonable travel distance.



because that counts as elite pvp.....you should try low-sec sometime veers....i would love to tutor you.


Nah, lowsec is a scary place with no police....where the bad pirate people live. You should really try L4 missions and other PvE in highsec.
J'mee Leggs
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#366 - 2014-11-14 07:25:22 UTC  |  Edited by: J'mee Leggs
Veers Belvar wrote:
J'mee Leggs wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

I would probably take your analysis more seriously if I felt that the average RvB player was capable of reading through this thread and understanding the issues...but of course I do not....so please do carry on.


Let's see: We were smart enough to look at the blue donut and say no thanks but instead of sperging on the forums FIX IT CCP! we took existing game mechanics and created our own little corner of the sandbox to play in. Five years later and our numbers have only steadily increased - real evidence of player support as opposed to some nebulous "silent majority". Arguably the most active hi sec corp in the game. And I can promise you we've helped more new players along than you and your silly little quixotic crusade for the lowest form of bottom feeder could ever dream of doing.

Guess we'll just add RvB to the rapidly expanding list of things you are completely clueless about.


You would be better off in the blue donut than in lame T1 frig battles around Jita. Brave Newbies (another group I have little regard for) at least realized how pointless corporations in highsec are and moved to nullsec....now they weren't competent enough to take down Provibloc...but at least they get an A for effort.

The great RvB spends their time engaging in T1 frigs around Jita....WOW....CAN I HOPE TO BE LIKE YOU SOMEDAY?????? Big smileShockedWhat?CoolLolPRollBlinkIdeaUgh

And your last sentence isn't even coherent.... "and I can promise you we've helped more new players along than you and your silly little quixotic crusade for the lowest form of bottom feeder could ever dream of doing."

Huh? That's the problem with arguing with RvB...they can't even understand the issues sufficiently to make a point, much less express themselves in coherent English. It's like trying to debate a musty shoebox....all you get is a cough and a headache....

So move along...and go kill a T1 frig in Jita for me.

Veers


LOL If you or any mindless sheep buy into your irrelevanant nonsense then more power to you. Meanwhile those of us that actually play this game, even if they don't agree with your mindset, easily agree on the fact that you are nothing more than a forum troll. I may not be an economics genius or have a degree in internet law or whatever else you claim to be (without any real evidence, such as your nature) but even a simple RvB ****** like myself can see that your entire manifesto is based on one simple assertion that is simply wrong in every meaningful way. protip: the only right your $14.99 a month buys you is the right to log in to the server. every, and I emphasize EVERY (including creating an avatar with pompous arms crossed looking like he's serviced his fair share of troop ships), action you take past that is a "right" CCP grants you because that is what they want to do. If you want to actually be taken seriously you would revise your core statement to read "I have the right to try to play CCP's game in the manner I find most enjoyable." Your subscription doesn't grant near as much rights as you seem to think it does. But I don't hold it against you, in a couple years you'll get to college and see that the world is so much bigger than you think it is right now. I wish you the best with your future endeavors, child.

And while we're at it, no RvB member more than a day old is scared of :CODE: or suicide ganking in general. You can try to misrepresent us as much as you'd like but we help new people avoid being ganked far more than you or your ******** ideas ever will.

Also: You need to be as thick as pig **** to think that a high sec organization as large as RvB doesn't, if even accidentally, have some experience with every aspect of hi sec pve. Unless you're flat out stupid enough to think that a high sec organization as large as ours doesn't have at least a toe dipped into every aspect of hi sec pve. Are you really daft enough to suggest that we go to low/null sec to make our money? RvB is an ISK sink at the end of the day which in turn makes us far more relevant than anyone like you will ever be. All bullshit aside, you still have yet to reconcile your fundamental idealogy with the simple fact that it is completely opposed to the stated (if not quite official) basic premise of this game.

But yeah, RvB members are dumb thank god for Tears Belchnfart for showing us the way. High Sec is super dangerous and should be nerfed (or buffed. I'm frankly confused by all of the circular logic and flat out ignorance displayed by the one that will save us). Praise be to our our One True Savior, whatever his name was...

(Obligatory praise to Plave Okice inserted here for showing us the way. Come back1111ONE !)
J'mee Leggs
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#367 - 2014-11-14 07:35:02 UTC  |  Edited by: J'mee Leggs
Veers Belvar wrote:
J'mee Leggs wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

I would probably take your analysis more seriously if I felt that the average RvB player was capable of reading through this thread and understanding the issues...but of course I do not....so please do carry on.


Let's see: We were smart enough to look at the blue donut and say no thanks but instead of sperging on the forums FIX IT CCP! we took existing game mechanics and created our own little corner of the sandbox to play in. Five years later and our numbers have only steadily increased - real evidence of player support as opposed to some nebulous "silent majority". Arguably the most active hi sec corp in the game. And I can promise you we've helped more new players along than you and your silly little quixotic crusade for the lowest form of bottom feeder could ever dream of doing.

Guess we'll just add RvB to the rapidly expanding list of things you are completely clueless about.


You would be better off in the blue donut than in lame T1 frig battles around Jita. Brave Newbies (another group I have little regard for) at least realized how pointless corporations in highsec are and moved to nullsec....now they weren't competent enough to take down Provibloc...but at least they get an A for effort.

The great RvB spends their time engaging in T1 frigs around Jita....WOW....CAN I HOPE TO BE LIKE YOU SOMEDAY?????? Big smileShockedWhat?CoolLolPRollBlinkIdeaUgh

And your last sentence isn't even coherent.... "and I can promise you we've helped more new players along than you and your silly little quixotic crusade for the lowest form of bottom feeder could ever dream of doing."

Huh? That's the problem with arguing with RvB...they can't even understand the issues sufficiently to make a point, much less express themselves in coherent English. It's like trying to debate a musty shoebox....all you get is a cough and a headache....

So move along...and go kill a T1 frig in Jita for me.

Veers


I'm not going to modify this quote in any way as the way it stands now perfectly emphasizes your complete ignorance regarding RvB. If you think I'm wrong then feel free to please send us an app. A tard like you wouldn't last a day. Nevertheless your tears would be worth the stigma of having you as a member.

Totally worth a double post.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#368 - 2014-11-14 07:48:55 UTC
Based on experience, only the most noble and brave of EVE players are able to venture into the pure lands of lowsec. The filthy highsec pubbie peons are unable to enter or stay/last long due to having very little clarity of spirit.

HEIL SANSHA!!

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#369 - 2014-11-14 08:15:04 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Based on experience, only the most noble and brave of EVE players are able to venture into the pure lands of lowsec. The filthy highsec pubbie peons are unable to enter or stay/last long due to having very little clarity of spirit.

HEIL SANSHA!!
Confirming that clarity of spirit is a prerequisite for lowsec, and can be fully achieved only through hundreds of ship explosions (including your own).

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
J'mee Leggs
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#370 - 2014-11-14 08:23:13 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Based on experience, only the most noble and brave of EVE players are able to venture into the pure lands of lowsec. The filthy highsec pubbie peons are unable to enter or stay/last long due to having very little clarity of spirit.

HEIL SANSHA!!
Confirming that clarity of spirit is a prerequisite for lowsec, and can be fully achieved only through hundreds of ship explosions (including your own).


I have had well over one hundred ships explodeed, is it ok if I venture into low and/or null sec even if I don't provide tears when my fancy internet spaceship gets rearranged into pixels resembling an explosion?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#371 - 2014-11-14 08:48:32 UTC
J'mee Leggs wrote:
I have had well over one hundred ships explodeed, is it ok if I venture into low and/or null sec even if I don't provide tears when my fancy internet spaceship gets rearranged into pixels resembling an explosion?
Absolutely! We don't really care that much about 'tears' in lowsec, the heat from all the explosions tends to quickly evaporate them anyways.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#372 - 2014-11-14 08:56:16 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
J'mee Leggs wrote:
I have had well over one hundred ships explodeed, is it ok if I venture into low and/or null sec even if I don't provide tears when my fancy internet spaceship gets rearranged into pixels resembling an explosion?
Absolutely! We don't really care that much about 'tears' in lowsec, the heat from all the explosions tends to quickly evaporate them anyways.


Point of order: while we may not be seeking tears specifically, when a pubbie offers them anyway, I'm not one to decline the generous sacrifice of scrublord tears.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#373 - 2014-11-14 09:12:30 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
J'mee Leggs wrote:
I have had well over one hundred ships explodeed, is it ok if I venture into low and/or null sec even if I don't provide tears when my fancy internet spaceship gets rearranged into pixels resembling an explosion?
Absolutely! We don't really care that much about 'tears' in lowsec, the heat from all the explosions tends to quickly evaporate them anyways.


Point of order: while we may not be seeking tears specifically, when a pubbie offers them anyway, I'm not one to decline the generous sacrifice of scrublord tears.

trash in local, though, that's mandatory
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#374 - 2014-11-14 09:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
J'mee Leggs wrote:
I have had well over one hundred ships explodeed, is it ok if I venture into low and/or null sec even if I don't provide tears when my fancy internet spaceship gets rearranged into pixels resembling an explosion?
Absolutely! We don't really care that much about 'tears' in lowsec, the heat from all the explosions tends to quickly evaporate them anyways.

Confirming, tears are not what I seek. Only explosions (mine or theirs is fine as long as it's a good fight).

Actually, I don't remember anyone giving me anything other than a 'gf' in local for a long time. There was this one guy in Old Man Star about a year ago that was quite colorful in local after I killed him and he couldn't understand why a Gallente pirate would be killing a Gallente militia....Roll Other then that, tears are something I don't see much of at all when roaming about.

Lowsec is a great place to live.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#375 - 2014-11-14 16:24:10 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Lowsec is a great place to live.


Amen brother, amen. With the recent changes it has truely become the land of opportunity, you can find pretty much any kind of pvp you want if you look hard enough.

As for us we're just happy we dont have to be so paranoid about bored nullseccers whenever we feel like putting a few caps on field any more.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#376 - 2014-11-14 17:03:25 UTC
J'mee Leggs wrote:


LOL If you or any mindless sheep buy into your irrelevanant nonsense then more power to you. Meanwhile those of us that actually play this game, even if they don't agree with your mindset, easily agree on the fact that you are nothing more than a forum troll. I may not be an economics genius or have a degree in internet law or whatever else you claim to be (without any real evidence, such as your nature) but even a simple RvB ****** like myself can see that your entire manifesto is based on one simple assertion that is simply wrong in every meaningful way. protip: the only right your $14.99 a month buys you is the right to log in to the server. every, and I emphasize EVERY (including creating an avatar with pompous arms crossed looking like he's serviced his fair share of troop ships), action you take past that is a "right" CCP grants you because that is what they want to do. If you want to actually be taken seriously you would revise your core statement to read "I have the right to try to play CCP's game in the manner I find most enjoyable." Your subscription doesn't grant near as much rights as you seem to think it does. But I don't hold it against you, in a couple years you'll get to college and see that the world is so much bigger than you think it is right now. I wish you the best with your future endeavors, child.

And while we're at it, no RvB member more than a day old is scared of :CODE: or suicide ganking in general. You can try to misrepresent us as much as you'd like but we help new people avoid being ganked far more than you or your ******** ideas ever will.

Also: You need to be as thick as pig **** to think that a high sec organization as large as RvB doesn't, if even accidentally, have some experience with every aspect of hi sec pve. Unless you're flat out stupid enough to think that a high sec organization as large as ours doesn't have at least a toe dipped into every aspect of hi sec pve. Are you really daft enough to suggest that we go to low/null sec to make our money? RvB is an ISK sink at the end of the day which in turn makes us far more relevant than anyone like you will ever be. All bullshit aside, you still have yet to reconcile your fundamental idealogy with the simple fact that it is completely opposed to the stated (if not quite official) basic premise of this game.

But yeah, RvB members are dumb thank god for Tears Belchnfart for showing us the way. High Sec is super dangerous and should be nerfed (or buffed. I'm frankly confused by all of the circular logic and flat out ignorance displayed by the one that will save us). Praise be to our our One True Savior, whatever his name was...

(Obligatory praise to Plave Okice inserted here for showing us the way. Come back1111ONE !)


I'm not sure what you are trying to say....lots of words....no content.

But, considering you are RvB, no real hope of a coherent back and forth anyway. So just don't bother.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#377 - 2014-11-14 17:07:19 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
ggodhsup wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Anything else? Or can this painful back and forth end now?


plenty more.....im lurking in all your posts.


ahhh....elite PvP at it's finest....

People have an inordinate fear of AFK cloakers... but you madam have taken it one step further...to wit,

The AFK forum lurker.

Now that will truly cast terror into the hearts of Eve players everywhere.

GGWP




There used to be a player called "AFK Cloaker", an amarrian with the hood over his face. Every thread about cloaking he would post this:


...





And always at the right moment too.

I miss that player.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation
#378 - 2014-11-14 21:03:05 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

There used to be a player called "AFK Cloaker", an amarrian with the hood over his face. Every thread about cloaking he would post this:


...





And always at the right moment too.

I miss that player.



Oh maaan... i remember him.. he had one of the gratest posts on the forums.
As far as i remember when all the whineing about afk cloakers begun ( somwhere around dominion i think..not sure thou )... he turned up and stalked forums ever since ... XD

As for the OP.. didn't read all of the thread, but a few advices :
1. Hagilur, Otou ( which ever from those two systems is that by Hek, dont remember the name exactly )... same as ammamake ( by Rens ) are camped all the time, go into other regions low sec, Domain region in amarr space is pretty empty Blink

2. Map, Dotlan maps, learn to use it... if players in system in last 30 minutes are more than 10.. and that is not the case every day ( in other words its not a bussy low sec system )... and ship / pod kills are more then 5 or even a two digit number it is very likely that it is a camp.
If there are a lot of players and kills every day ( as in ammamake or systems as such ) then it is a busy low sec system.

3. When you jump, you dont have to move your ship right away, you have time to drink some cofie, roll up a cigarette, and look at teh situation and decite what you want to do.
If you think youll lose the ship.. set next destination for autopilot the gate you want to escape with your pod, so its yellow and you dont make mistake in clicking... ( for getting your pod out ).

4. There are rewards with persistance, you dont have to be a pvper to go to low sec, you can be a regular carebear that is more carefull and you can earn a lot of isk.. try it again and again, youll see it is worthwile Cool
Kaely Tanniss
The Conference Council
The Conference
#379 - 2014-11-15 08:02:28 UTC
J'mee Leggs wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

This means pvp players in low/null, and pve players in high.


Greetings Mr. Belvar.

I hope this missive finds you in good health and fortune. We here at RvB value input from all of our potential consumers and were thoroughly intrigued by your suggestion to remove pvp from hi sec altogether. I'm embarassed to admit that this idea, as simple and elegant as it is, simply never occured to us.

Now many corps, when finding themselves in a situation such as this, would simply release a pre-written statement carefully formed to remain neutral in the face of what is sure to be a controversial issue when you decide to go forward with implementing it. RvB holds itself to a higher standard than most corps however. We firmly believe that the personal touch is what makes us the unique and successful organization we are. Indeed, we encourage all members of RvB, whether in the employ of the Glorious Red Federation or working for the perfectly adequate Blue Republic, to get out there and personally touch as many denizens of New Eden as possible on a daily basis. Why, with all the touching its a bit of a miracle we ever manage to get any work done at all.

However, when we receive a potentially game changing suggestion, especially from someone as important as yourself, we make the time. We began by opening up a forum so all members could voice any opinions or concerns. We then formed a committee to take all of that raw data and collate it into a manageable set of bullet points that covered all of the foreseeable pros and cons of this suggestion as it relates to us. These bullet points were then discussed in a series of round table debates. After we felt we had gathered enough information to accurately represent our members' desires in this matter our upper management retired to the boardroom to decide what our official response would be. They returned not only with a counter proposal, but also an official finding to be recorded in alliance logs so that all future members could be appropriately enlightened. An interesting side note here is that both the counter proposal and the official finding were unanimously supported by RvB in its entirety, a very rare thing for any corporation, as I'm sure you can imagine.

In light of all this it is with no small amount of pride that I, J'mee Leggs, on this day, in accordance with the responsibilities of my assigned role and on behalf of RvB as a whole, would like to kindly invite you to go stick your head in a trout. Furthermore, we have determined that you are the stupidest piece of excrement to ever extrude from the internet and deposit itself on these forums.

Thank you for your support and as always, if you have any further questions or comments please feel free to contact us.

Warmest regards,
J'mee Leggs
RvB Department of Public Relations (intern)


Possibly the best post I have read on these forums in a long time..I lol'd so hard my stomach now hurts. +100

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Kaely Tanniss
The Conference Council
The Conference
#380 - 2014-11-15 08:07:19 UTC
J'mee Leggs wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
J'mee Leggs wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

I would probably take your analysis more seriously if I felt that the average RvB player was capable of reading through this thread and understanding the issues...but of course I do not....so please do carry on.


Let's see: We were smart enough to look at the blue donut and say no thanks but instead of sperging on the forums FIX IT CCP! we took existing game mechanics and created our own little corner of the sandbox to play in. Five years later and our numbers have only steadily increased - real evidence of player support as opposed to some nebulous "silent majority". Arguably the most active hi sec corp in the game. And I can promise you we've helped more new players along than you and your silly little quixotic crusade for the lowest form of bottom feeder could ever dream of doing.

Guess we'll just add RvB to the rapidly expanding list of things you are completely clueless about.


You would be better off in the blue donut than in lame T1 frig battles around Jita. Brave Newbies (another group I have little regard for) at least realized how pointless corporations in highsec are and moved to nullsec....now they weren't competent enough to take down Provibloc...but at least they get an A for effort.

The great RvB spends their time engaging in T1 frigs around Jita....WOW....CAN I HOPE TO BE LIKE YOU SOMEDAY?????? Big smileShockedWhat?CoolLolPRollBlinkIdeaUgh

And your last sentence isn't even coherent.... "and I can promise you we've helped more new players along than you and your silly little quixotic crusade for the lowest form of bottom feeder could ever dream of doing."

Huh? That's the problem with arguing with RvB...they can't even understand the issues sufficiently to make a point, much less express themselves in coherent English. It's like trying to debate a musty shoebox....all you get is a cough and a headache....

So move along...and go kill a T1 frig in Jita for me.

Veers


LOL If you or any mindless sheep buy into your irrelevanant nonsense then more power to you. Meanwhile those of us that actually play this game, even if they don't agree with your mindset, easily agree on the fact that you are nothing more than a forum troll. I may not be an economics genius or have a degree in internet law or whatever else you claim to be (without any real evidence, such as your nature) but even a simple RvB ****** like myself can see that your entire manifesto is based on one simple assertion that is simply wrong in every meaningful way. protip: the only right your $14.99 a month buys you is the right to log in to the server. every, and I emphasize EVERY (including creating an avatar with pompous arms crossed looking like he's serviced his fair share of troop ships), action you take past that is a "right" CCP grants you because that is what they want to do. If you want to actually be taken seriously you would revise your core statement to read "I have the right to try to play CCP's game in the manner I find most enjoyable." Your subscription doesn't grant near as much rights as you seem to think it does. But I don't hold it against you, in a couple years you'll get to college and see that the world is so much bigger than you think it is right now. I wish you the best with your future endeavors, child.

And while we're at it, no RvB member more than a day old is scared of :CODE: or suicide ganking in general. You can try to misrepresent us as much as you'd like but we help new people avoid being ganked far more than you or your ******** ideas ever will.

Also: You need to be as thick as pig **** to think that a high sec organization as large as RvB doesn't, if even accidentally, have some experience with every aspect of hi sec pve. Unless you're flat out stupid enough to think that a high sec organization as large as ours doesn't have at least a toe dipped into every aspect of hi sec pve. Are you really daft enough to suggest that we go to low/null sec to make our money? RvB is an ISK sink at the end of the day which in turn makes us far more relevant than anyone like you will ever be. All bullshit aside, you still have yet to reconcile your fundamental idealogy with the simple fact that it is completely opposed to the stated (if not quite official) basic premise of this game.

But yeah, RvB members are dumb thank god for Tears Belchnfart for showing us the way. High Sec is super dangerous and should be nerfed (or buffed. I'm frankly confused by all of the circular logic and flat out ignorance displayed by the one that will save us). Praise be to our our One True Savior, whatever his name was...

(Obligatory praise to Plave Okice inserted here for showing us the way. Come back1111ONE !)


OMG...stop it...it hurts...no more laughing...Lol

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..