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Barghest: any uses outside of station games?
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-11-08 19:37:26 UTC
For my it looks like this ship can only be used with good 'neutral' logistics and OGB support in station games. Web/Scram bonus doesn't look very big...

Or i'm completely wrong here?

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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#2 - 2014-11-08 20:02:48 UTC
It's a pretty trash ship in any scenario. A Typhoon can outperform it in almost every way

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Battle BV Master
Bacon Never Dies
#3 - 2014-11-08 21:01:57 UTC
Well almost nothing with an AB will catch it speed wise and everything with a MWD will get scramed/disabled before it has any hope of landing their own. Extra scram range is magic in kiting warfare
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#4 - 2014-11-08 21:08:51 UTC
Battle BV Master wrote:
Well almost nothing with an AB will catch it speed wise and everything with a MWD will get scramed/disabled before it has any hope of landing their own. Extra scram range is magic in kiting warfare


The problem is the poor damage application against small targets since it lacks the application bonus that the trashcan has.

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-11-10 10:04:27 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Battle BV Master wrote:
Well almost nothing with an AB will catch it speed wise and everything with a MWD will get scramed/disabled before it has any hope of landing their own. Extra scram range is magic in kiting warfare


The problem is the poor damage application against small targets since it lacks the application bonus that the trashcan has.


Dont talk to my phoon like that! it hass moving parts and everything now Sad

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#6 - 2014-11-10 16:00:57 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Battle BV Master wrote:
Well almost nothing with an AB will catch it speed wise and everything with a MWD will get scramed/disabled before it has any hope of landing their own. Extra scram range is magic in kiting warfare


The problem is the poor damage application against small targets since it lacks the application bonus that the trashcan has.


Dont talk to my phoon like that! it hass moving parts and everything now Sad


Was clearly talking about the Bargh. Cruise phoon is great, even if squishy as hell. Bargh surely has a purpose somewhere, but currently competition from the orthrus (same pointrange, more dps) is just to hard.
Badman Lasermouse
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps
#7 - 2014-11-10 16:21:38 UTC
You should be fitting it with Rapid Heavies. If you are looking ar cruise or Torps you are wrong.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#8 - 2014-11-10 19:10:52 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Battle BV Master wrote:
Well almost nothing with an AB will catch it speed wise and everything with a MWD will get scramed/disabled before it has any hope of landing their own. Extra scram range is magic in kiting warfare


The problem is the poor damage application against small targets since it lacks the application bonus that the trashcan has.


Dont talk to my phoon like that! it hass moving parts and everything now Sad


RIP old trashcan

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2014-11-10 23:13:44 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Battle BV Master wrote:
Well almost nothing with an AB will catch it speed wise and everything with a MWD will get scramed/disabled before it has any hope of landing their own. Extra scram range is magic in kiting warfare


The problem is the poor damage application against small targets since it lacks the application bonus that the trashcan has.


Dont talk to my phoon like that! it hass moving parts and everything now Sad

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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-11 08:12:23 UTC
Imagine a Raven or Typhoon.
Now Imagine it looks like a frying pan worth 5 times a typhoon
Now Imagine it perfoms less

I present to you. The Barghest.

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ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#11 - 2014-11-11 08:30:11 UTC
seems like with rapid heavy launchers this ship would be awesome.....guess the phoon would be pretty good in the same fit though. im training heavies 5 right now in prep for both these ships.
SFM Hobb3s
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-11-11 20:45:08 UTC
Rapid Heavies. Also you can fit a surprisingly effective armor tank on these, same or even better than Navpoc. All the while having even more options for tackle and lots of prop mods. Hell, put em all on just because you can.
Tung Yoggi
University of Caille
#13 - 2014-11-12 14:49:42 UTC
It's alright, if you like to be the center of attention, for your corpmates as well as for the enemy gang.

Makes for a decent shield kiting battleship, but you will need force multipliers and possibly an unreasonable number of speed mods.

Lastly, the Barghest allows you to fulfill the naughty fantasy of putting 3 prop mods on a ship, and still make some sort of sense.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-11-14 09:16:38 UTC
It fries an egg like you wouldn't believe.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2014-11-14 17:30:35 UTC
Luwc wrote:
Imagine a Raven or Typhoon.
Now Imagine it looks like a frying pan worth 5 times a typhoon
Now Imagine it perfoms less

I present to you. The Barghest.


to be fair they are faily cheap now 6-700m depending where you look,
and if you live in lowsec you will end up owning one anyway, iv found 3 of the dam things in the last month or so.

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-11-15 07:18:37 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Luwc wrote:
Imagine a Raven or Typhoon.
Now Imagine it looks like a frying pan worth 5 times a typhoon
Now Imagine it perfoms less

I present to you. The Barghest.


to be fair they are faily cheap now 6-700m depending where you look,
and if you live in lowsec you will end up owning one anyway, iv found 3 of the dam things in the last month or so.

Compared to a nestor which is holding out at over a billion.

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Gnadolin
Space Pioneers
#17 - 2014-11-18 10:09:52 UTC
Consider it a Missile Macariel
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#18 - 2014-11-18 10:51:09 UTC
Gnadolin wrote:
Consider it a Missile Machariel


has anyone else noticed that this BS is on the faster end of the spectrum....maybe #2....i would be curious to see a nano setup with faction point and scram.

it seems like some links, snakes, and a can of quafe would make this thing bad ass.
Gnadolin
Space Pioneers
#19 - 2014-11-18 11:02:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Gnadolin
like so?

[Barghest, New Setup 1]
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Damage Control II

Domination 100MN Microwarpdrive
Republic Fleet X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
True Sansha Warp Scrambler

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II

Infiltrator II x5


Stats

Tested on Testserver, the reload of rapid heavys suck, but other then that, there is hardly a thing that can catch and kill you.
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#20 - 2014-11-18 11:25:29 UTC
Gnadolin wrote:
like so?

[Barghest, New Setup 1]
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Damage Control II

Domination 100MN Microwarpdrive
Republic Fleet X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
True Sansha Warp Scrambler

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II

Infiltrator II x5


Stats

Tested on Testserver, the reload of rapid heavys suck, but other then that, there is hardly a thing that can catch and kill you.


man....i just gave away the new FOTM.....i wouldnt go with that much faction bling though....loot pinata ftl.

i would keep the faction mids, and just t2 the lows i think.....maybe a domi overdrive or nano instead of the bcs.

little crazy to see a BS moving 4k/s...brings back the nano-phoon days.

see^^ station games are only one of this pony's tricks.
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