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A New Corp Tax
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#21 - 2014-11-08 21:50:27 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
And why should the corp get a share of the bounties you get for killing rats ?


Because this is money coming from the outside of player hands into my wallet, whereas money from trading comes into my wallet because I invested money first and don't generate new money. Other than that? Beats me, why do you think I am in a 0% Tax corp? Roll

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Doomheim
#22 - 2014-11-08 21:59:36 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
And why should the corp get a share of the bounties you get for killing rats ?

In return for ratting in their space
In return for corp services
In return for hiding from wardecs
Because they're ripping you off

There's probably more.

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Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-11-08 22:45:10 UTC
I'd rather my market sales weren't taxed any more than they already are, thanks.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#24 - 2014-11-08 23:54:03 UTC
this as well as a tax on refined minerals if you don't like the taxes don't join a corp that has them

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The 16.8km Bubble
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-11-09 06:56:58 UTC
Oh dear, no, that would wreak havoc for traders. Keep in mind that the current tax rate is only 2.5% - and there are skills which people spend days training just to reduce that by a few tenths of a percent.
Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-11-09 07:47:20 UTC
This doesnt make sense you can just use out of corp alts for trading..
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#27 - 2014-11-09 09:14:37 UTC
Just like you can carebear in most non-null space out of corp. It's standard practice for incursions already.

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#28 - 2014-11-09 10:15:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
All right, I'm being serious now.

I'm actually up for more forms of corporate tax. The more forms the better, but the things that need to be taxed by a corporation need to be things that cannot be dodged by a character without leaving the corp completely, and not make random money from nowhere. Having the player dodge the taxes via alts isn't so bad in my book, but these proposed taxes should be types that would be difficult to dodge in this way.

The idea is that with the more forms of taxation, the corp can tailor itself to better serve its members (or itself... this is EvE). The taxes, ideally, would be able to be set individually, probably with a slider. The problem, of course, is what to tax?

This isn't a new problem. Here's one of the most memorable threads on the topic that I've seen:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2684011#post2684011

So what's taxable now?
Missions, incursions, and bounties. All of these things bring ISK into the game from nowhere, and they can't be dodged by being on another chartacter. If you aren't getting taxed, then you aren't getting the services of the corp.

So, keeping these ideas in mind, what else can be taxed and not dodged easily? Taxes on trading aren't too viable, because they can easily be dodged via a trading alt -- effectively making them pointless. Taxes on reprocessing? This can also be circumvented by an alt, if not as easily. Also, what is this taxing? Reprocessing fees are already a sink and not a faucet. And the ISK generated from the ore comes from players and not the system. It's a slight distinction, but an important one.

I was half joking with my 'tax insurance payments' snark, but actually this would be an area that would be taxable with the above ideas in mind. The money is generated by the system, and only the player getting the payment would be able to be taxed -- no way to shift it to another character.

Find some more ways that a faucet can be taxed, with first identifing the faucets, then we might make a working model for CCP to look at.

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Doomheim
#29 - 2014-11-09 14:03:23 UTC
Think everyone agrees more forms of taxation should be in our future but this is just ill conceived.

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