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CCP THINK OF THE IMMERSION!

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Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-11-07 21:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Child Soldier
Hi there,

When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.

I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!

However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.

These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.

I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.

but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.

Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!

I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.

I love you all fellow Capsuleers,

Fly safe o7
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-11-07 22:00:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Won't somebody think of the carebears!

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
stoicfaux
#3 - 2014-11-07 22:03:37 UTC
Look, this is EVE and EVE is real. Role-playing isn't real. Meta-playing *is* real. You don't role-play in EVE, you meta-play.

The jump changes fit in with EVE's meta-playing lore, so there is no "LORE" problem with EVE.


If you want to "role-play" (i.e. pretend to play) EVE, then go create an EVE LARP.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#4 - 2014-11-07 22:05:52 UTC  |  Edited by: BuckStrider
WTF

Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com
May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#5 - 2014-11-07 22:06:30 UTC
Space got more dense, just like I did reading this. It made jumping harder. Like swimming through treacle.

I'd blame this god chap the Amarrians keep harping on about, I'm told he works in mysterious yet supposedly glorious ways.
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#6 - 2014-11-07 22:07:57 UTC
Child Soldier wrote:
Hi there,

When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.

I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!

However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.

These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.

I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.

but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.

Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!

I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.

I love you all fellow Capsuleers,

Fly safe o7


*Nods*

Well said, well said.
Arla Sarain
#7 - 2014-11-07 22:09:20 UTC
Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE.
Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-11-07 22:11:49 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Child Soldier wrote:
Hi there,

When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.

I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!

However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.

These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.

I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.

but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.

Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!

I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.

I love you all fellow Capsuleers,

Fly safe o7


*Nods*

Well said, well said.



Hi Thomas,

its good to hear from you again. i thought you had quit not too long ago. i miss you and our bi-weekly RP sessions. hit me up soon?

please spread the word of this noble cause.

o7
Terra Jaynara
Immense Custard Technologies
#9 - 2014-11-07 22:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Terra Jaynara
stoicfaux wrote:
Look, this is EVE and EVE is real. Role-playing isn't real. Meta-playing *is* real. You don't role-play in EVE, you meta-play.

The jump changes fit in with EVE's meta-playing lore, so there is no "LORE" problem with EVE.


If you want to "role-play" (i.e. pretend to play) EVE, then go create an EVE LARP.



Roleplaying might not be real for *you* but it is an integral part of this game for many of us. Just because you don't play a certain way doesn't mean that way is wrong. EVE is a *SANDBOX* and we all build sand castles differently. Big smile

I, for one, agree with the OP. I don't spend hours reading and rereading EVE Chronicles just to have all of this tossed aside just because the Nullbears have Null brains and can't play this game without making it unfun. Roll

I don't think it's too much to ask for those of us that have invested in the backstory of this game (that you all benefit from, whether you realize it or not) to have some explanation for why suddenly our jump drives started making us tired. Ugh

-Terra Jaynara
Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#10 - 2014-11-07 22:12:55 UTC
Child Soldier wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Child Soldier wrote:
Hi there,

When i first joined the fine ranks of the capsuleers of this beloved universe, i did not know what it was that i wanted to do in the game, maybe you reading this will be in a similar position, in which case i have been there.

I tried everything from mining to ratting to PvP but alas, these were not for me. Instead i found a love of jumping my carrier around regions at will and roleplaying the local faction rats in the correct ships with correct full faction fits as one would assume thats how they are & should be fitted. I portrayed myself as a soldier of fortune taken as a child by Sansha but escaped his clutches to fight for the highest bidder. sometimes even for capsuleers themselves!

However the aspect of this game that i love has sadly been torn away from me by the true evil of this game: --------- CCP ------------. CCP has ruined my immersion and roleplaying experience and as perhaps the integral part of this fine game i am amazed that more people are not rising up in arms about this. Immersion is central to EvE without immersion what is this game???!!!! Now you may be reading this and thinking you aren't immersed in this game, but you are, we all are. how do you know who the real you is anymore. i see Rifters when i look at cars. Busses are Titans to me. EVE IS REAL.

These Jump Changes in Phoebe have ruined my play style and i for one am appalled that these changes are just allowed to happen with no LORE explanation. did we all just wake up one day and our Jump Drives decide they didn't want to work anymore? WHAT THE HELL CPP. I demand an explanation from CCP themselves as to how this all fits in to the game as a whole. because it is ruining my fully immersed experience.

I get so immersed in this game that occasionally in the evening when i am -in the zone- pod goo goes everywhere while playing eve. its pretty thrilling. but i feel it is a necessary aspect of this game. does this happen to you?! i think i might have a problem.

but still back to the real issue here. EvE has changed, with zero explanation. If you were fully immersed with a lady / man / manlady friend of yours (take your pick) and suddenly they changed into something completely different infront of you, what would you think? There is no logical explanation.

Did the Sleepers do this to make K-Space the new W-Space?!

I dont know about you but if these issues affect you i hope you will support my cause at the Jita Monument on the 9th December 2014 to protest the actions of CCP. please spread the word & join me in showing CCP that we cant be bullied out of this game & the immersion factors that make it so important and dear to us.

I love you all fellow Capsuleers,

Fly safe o7


*Nods*

Well said, well said.



Hi Thomas,

its good to hear from you again. i thought you had quit not too long ago. i miss you and our bi-weekly RP sessions. hit me up soon?

please spread the word of this noble cause.

o7


No worries, sounds good. I had a bit of a row with the wife because she claimed cybersex RP was 'emotional cheating', but I explained that almost all female characters were actually men and long story short we're Poly now.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2014-11-07 22:14:07 UTC
Arla Sarain wrote:
Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE.

Ccp will kill eve.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Aapir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-11-07 22:16:54 UTC
Adapt or die Twisted
Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-11-07 22:19:03 UTC
Aapir wrote:
Adapt or die Twisted



i find this hostility very scary my friend. please cease & desist or i will be authorised to use lethal force.

cant we all just get along?

o7
stoicfaux
#14 - 2014-11-07 22:19:06 UTC
May Arethusa wrote:
Space got more dense, just like I did reading this. It made jumping harder. Like swimming through treacle.

I'd blame this god chap the Amarrians keep harping on about, I'm told he works in mysterious yet supposedly glorious ways.

That god chap is displeased with the Amarrians. The loss of the Minmatar, the inability to bring the Gallente and Caldari into the fold, letting Sansha barge into Amarr space at will, zero sleeper conversions, and the drifting away from using the purifying light of god (i.e. lasers) seen in the increase in drone and missile based Amarr hulls, has caused god chap to put limits on jump ranges as a "subtle" way of telling the Amarr that they need to slow down, consolidate, and take the time to get their **** together. Preferably before god chap feel the need to be less subtle...

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#15 - 2014-11-07 22:20:00 UTC
Arla Sarain wrote:
Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE.

For like 2 or 3 weeks maybe.... a month or two on the outside. That community has been complaining of a lack of content for a while. Don't get me wrong, core gameplay is amazing, but you can only do the same dogfight so many times...
stoicfaux
#16 - 2014-11-07 22:20:34 UTC
Aapir wrote:
Adapt or die Twisted

Adapt or die in game.

FTFY, but not before your perma-ban for making real life threats. Cry

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Dagoth Fett
Whole Squid
#17 - 2014-11-07 22:21:56 UTC
The lore behind jump drive mechanics was the thread that bound my disparate headmates together across the vast and lonely reaches of the New Eden Star Cluster. I need the official word on these changes so I can update my fics. Evil
Child Soldier
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-11-07 22:25:20 UTC
Dagoth Fett wrote:
The lore behind jump drive mechanics was the thread that bound my disparate headmates together across the vast and lonely reaches of the New Eden Star Cluster. I need the official word on these changes so I can update my fics. Evil


I would definitely be interested in learning your opinions on this matter and hope we can come up with some socially acceptable space lore that answers all these questions to the best of our ability.

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#19 - 2014-11-07 22:26:11 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Arla Sarain wrote:
Elite:Dangerous will kill EVE.

Ccp will kill eve.


We will kill Eve.

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Dagoth Fett
Whole Squid
#20 - 2014-11-07 22:31:09 UTC
Child Soldier wrote:
Dagoth Fett wrote:
The lore behind jump drive mechanics was the thread that bound my disparate headmates together across the vast and lonely reaches of the New Eden Star Cluster. I need the official word on these changes so I can update my fics. Evil


I would definitely be interested in learning your opinions on this matter and hope we can come up with some socially acceptable space lore that answers all these questions to the best of our ability.



Oh trust me when I say I've submitted a great many internally-consistent proposals to the entire CCP chain of command (as well as the CSM (as well several prominent video game journalists)). I would share some of them openly, but I believe they are now under NDA.
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