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Just watched Interstellar...

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#41 - 2014-11-17 00:40:57 UTC
After they exited the wormhole, the first thing that came mind was: "Remember to bookmark it!"

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#42 - 2014-11-17 03:50:18 UTC
You guys worrying about the finer details of the physics need to let it go and enjoy a decent piece of entertainment.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#43 - 2014-11-17 06:46:35 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
You guys worrying about the finer details of the physics need to let it go and enjoy a decent piece of entertainment.


It is hard sci fi. In order to fully appreciate it you have to dig down. That's the whole point of the sub-genre. Movies like 2001, books written by Asimov and Clarke, etc.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-11-17 07:23:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Watched interstellar yesterday... Was a bit underwhelmed, but the Robot s were cool.

Also, didn't understand why they never noticed 300 metres high mega waves on the first planet they approached before they went down to the surface.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#45 - 2014-11-17 09:29:52 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Watched interstellar yesterday... Was a bit underwhelmed, but the Robot s were cool.

Also, didn't understand why they never noticed 300 metres high mega waves on the first planet they approached before they went down to the surface.


Stationary from orbit for all intents and purposes. Probably not interpreted as waves.
Pepper Swift
Perkone
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-11-17 09:36:09 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Watched interstellar yesterday... Was a bit underwhelmed, but the Robot s were cool.

Also, didn't understand why they never noticed 300 metres high mega waves on the first planet they approached before they went down to the surface.



cant have everyone spotting the obvious everytime...

otherwise the movie be pretty poor to watch ...


*spoiler*

like.. lol.. going on only one spot of the planet and think the entire planet looks like that.

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Pepper Swift
Perkone
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-11-17 09:37:05 UTC
but in general... interstellar is a pretty awesome movie.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-11-17 11:18:02 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Same here. It was the only way I could even offer insight in the conversation, I don't make a habit of arguing with people who have worked in Los Alamos in their own field. I bought the tesseract explanation, I've though of time as a physical dimension before, but she quickly dismantled it and pointed out that time was still passing on the inside of a black hole, and chuckled at the gravity waves. We didn't spend a lot of time talking the science but it was clear she was impressed by the majority of it. Kip Thorne, Niel Degrasse Tyson and the friend in question all gave it a thumbs up, what can I say.

Now, I'm not sure what part you're referring to. I was talking about when they park in an artificial orbit above the first planet. A wider, circular orbit outside its sphere of influence but keeping pace with it. Impossible unless you keep your thrusters running and continually correct your course, which is absurdly wasteful and something they mention and weigh the costs of. What they don't mention is how it wasn't a catastrophic problem they left it in orbit 21 years too long.

Now I'm beginning to suspect you're taking issue with the point when they use Gargantua to slingshot. Their orbit was, by the nature of what they were doing, definitely not circular at that point, so intuition isn't going to be accurate. They fired their thrusters and dropped a good chunk of weight at their intended periapsis, in order to gain as much speed as was possible before they fell in. Cooper continued along the ship's original course, and the ship edged past. Yes, their window would have been tiny, but they had a demonstrably capable computer on board that was explicitly helping him during the scene. All you can fault them for is stretching the scene out for dramatic effect, just like they condense the hours on the water planet so we don't have to watch water drain slowly while they shoot the ****.

No, the delta-V requirements of any major plane changes around a body are greatly increased by the mass of the body and how low the orbit is. If you aren't understanding my explanation, then go try it for yourself in KSP. Put a ship in a 2,000 km orbit over the sun with hyperedit, and try to fly it out of that orbit. Even if you put Moho on a 2,000 km orbit and put your ship in orbit around Moho, you still can't slingshot out without using a tremendous amount of dV.

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Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-11-18 00:51:58 UTC
I would say that the best thing about the film would b the visuals and soundtrack, it also asks some pretty deep questions. Yes the science behind it is stretched. I would say it will win 2 oscars for its sound and visuals. The scripting was decent if not spectacular but the premise behind the scripting was pretty awesome.

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-11-18 11:41:33 UTC
Christopher AET wrote:
I would say that the best thing about the film would b the visuals and soundtrack, it also asks some pretty deep questions. Yes the science behind it is stretched. I would say it will win 2 oscars for its sound and visuals. The scripting was decent if not spectacular but the premise behind the scripting was pretty awesome.


Dat soundtrack sure was annying at times. Especially when the music got so loud it blotted out everything else. xD

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#51 - 2014-11-18 17:37:33 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:

No, the delta-V requirements of any major plane changes around a body are greatly increased by the mass of the body and how low the orbit is. If you aren't understanding my explanation, then go try it for yourself in KSP. Put a ship in a 2,000 km orbit over the sun with hyperedit, and try to fly it out of that orbit. Even if you put Moho on a 2,000 km orbit and put your ship in orbit around Moho, you still can't slingshot out without using a tremendous amount of dV.


They weren't orbiting the black hole, they were falling into it. That's what the thruster burn after they controlled the spinning did. So they dumped mass and burned when their velocity was extremely high but they still had a window. They slingshotted, they did not alter an orbit.
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#52 - 2014-11-18 18:47:16 UTC
ive been led to believe it`s something like three hours looooooong ... ill wait till it comes out on blueray ....that way I can pause it when I need to go to the beer fridge
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-11-19 07:24:56 UTC
jason hill wrote:
ive been led to believe it`s something like three hours looooooong ... ill wait till it comes out on blueray ....that way I can pause it when I need to go to the beer fridge


Your cinemas don't sell beer? Shocked

You poor sod, I pitty your country. Sad

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-11-19 19:20:17 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
They weren't orbiting the black hole, they were falling into it. That's what the thruster burn after they controlled the spinning did. So they dumped mass and burned when their velocity was extremely high but they still had a window. They slingshotted, they did not alter an orbit.

That's even more absurd. While the dV requirement for a large enough plane change maneuver might be a lot smaller, it's still very large and there's still very little time to burn the thrusters, but when they're that close to a black hole and falling in, they wouldn't have much time before they fell in. And time dilation wouldn't make them feel like they do but rather would make the whole thing happen even faster for them. That would have to be an absurdly massive black hole to give them any reasonable amount of time to do all that stuff while falling into it. And then that doesn't explain how a tiny plane change makes the difference between it looming on the horizon for 23 years and it suddenly getting really close in about 2 minutes.

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