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If you're going to be tracking mouseover for windows, I'd love for mouseover of drones in space to trigger showing of drone command buttons on each of the drones or drone groups.

Move away from: right-click Drone or Drone Group, navigate through menu to option, left-click Specific Command
Move to: Mouse over Drone or Drone Group, left-click the "Attack", "Return to Drone Bay", or "Return to Orbit" quick buttons.

The number of times I've been prompted "are you sure you want to abandon this drone" is crazy.

I agree that the icon changes could be a major source of frustration for the existing playerbase.

By simply adding an icon settings drop-down, it can allow users the option to revert to the "original icons" and be used as an opportunity for future customization. Allowing user selected icon sets opens the possibility for race specific icons sets, maybe even player created icon sets.

now if only you could paint your ships...

are there more hotkeys planed, like for each drone group one to attack the target or launching drones?

Window prioritisation... Love it!



Ok ok... im not going to call you insane, im sure its all very logical.... but seriously it looks dull. I mean its the main task bar for everything everyone does... and its grey.

Light up the icons from behind or something, have the background the same as the window colour. Grey may be efficient but its not particularly interesting...

I like your living up to your name, but optimal in one regard might not be optimal in another.

What I see so far, I like. But I do have to say this;


We're playing a game based upon Science Fiction, with the possibility of becoming reality with in the next 1,000 years. Why not have a more "SciFi / Geeky" UI? How about allowing players to mod their UIs to an extent of their liking.


As an Ex-WoW player, that's one of the biggest features I enjoyed. I enjoyed having a UI that was compact, and had what I needed. It also helped that I had a G15 Keyboard to where I could customize my combos. I know I'll catch flak to mention that absurd game, but it does have it's unique features, even real gamers can't deny it has uniqueness to it.


I'd like to see more customization available. It used to be possible to customize the color of ship names while in space. If I clicked on CCP Arrow in space, I could see that his distance was x color, his name was y color, and his alliance was z color. You can still do it now, but again, customization is huge to some.

Just a thought. But I do like what I see so far.

Can you disclose any information on what kind of changes you want to add to the Ship HUD? Will there be a button to consume drugs, use drones?

Preset color themes is all well and good, but an option for custom colors using RGB sliders would be very appreciated. It did read a bit like you're babying us with that restriction although I'm sure that was not the intention. We are smart players for the most part, give us a chance we can figure out what works .

My apologies if I'm wrong here and RGB sliders are still a thing. I don't use the test server.

...this is not a "UI overhaul." It's a simple reskin.

You're moving backwards here. This "UI Overhaul" looks like a skin that you'd slap on an MP3 player from 2001. Overhaul the UI first, THEN make it pretty.

about getting UI better for real



in the last few years whenever CCP played with the UI it made things different, but not always better.
I still look for the undock button on the neocom.
I disabled the notifications [i liked that i could disable a feature that i didnt enjoyed]

I start to feel like i'm blind because, you keep increasing the button's size and making things look more fancy.
These changes takes more space on my screen without increasing the efficiency of my use of the UI.

Now, the available area for 'space [nebulaes and stuff]' display on my screen, its never been so low,
not that i need to see what's there... ok maybe a litle,
when i use this new radial menu to activate, lock, unlock something NEVERMIND it didnt wanted to ever display, i couldnt blap this tackle frig before it got too close, and now there is this weird noise over and over again, eve sends my mouse all over the other side of the screen making eve unplayable, forcing me to relog to 'fix' the issue.

but yes, seeing space, not really needed, all i need to see is these bright, flat and single colored icons with a t-reks background?
more light on ALREADY alot of light? no thanks.
Bright spots STICK to the retina and i experienced it far too much, i will end up avoiding these bright icons as much as possible.
White text on a black background? the verry reason i barely read forums unless i am concerned and it's worth killing my eyes to give an opinion.

Implementing brightness options there doesnt solve the issue, it makes it flat and tasteless, still having a hardlight icon, no matter what the hardness.

Buttons size now, things keep getting bigger?
You gave us a "compact" view mode for things and... well i dont use it because it's TOO compact it doesnt provide smaller icons, nor has the effect of keeping some information available and features usable.
"size matters" correct size, no useless room taken.

In the cynabal/market picture the different market related tab's boundries within one same themed window are less obviously defined then they are now, the feel it's in the same category is lost somehow.
With the new D scan window, we cant have a "scanners tab" to stack with chats anymore, which keeps increasing the space taken on the tabs, and over the "space" display.

now for the "Scifi/futuristic" part of the UIs...
The first star treks ? nah that's old, i can do better than that.
what's the release date of that matrix movie already ? RIGHT 15 years ago.
mhh maybe minority report? NOPE 2002, about ... 12 years ago.
Iron man 1 computer interface + holotable? 2008, getting closer but this is autocad Xray looking....
Mass effect 2 or Tron holograms and UI's? probly 2010.. still not good enouth
Star trek into the darkness. 2012-3, recent enouth.

what's the common theme here?
The UIs provide either: alot of data the hero has to chew through OR they give the hero the EXACT information he wanted.
All of this happends verry quickly since it's a distraction medium and it's a detail.... then what?
they both look fancy.

LOOK fancy but i'm preety sure if you take a close look into an UI picture presented here or there
you realize that those cool, lighty, fancy looking things almost ONLY display information
and the ammount of ways to request and alter the information is to use .... tadaaa!
a touch, [click] a drag [long click] a voice / move command [we know how they perform], keyboards or switches.

spaceships UI
looking at F18, then F22, and space shuttle's cokpit's control panel, notice the ratio of input/display there is,
20-30% display 80/70% of input, ways to alter display or features.
As an eve player, warp, align, jump or turn stuff on/off is basic .... right/left click
(no need to monitor the pants perssure, or the oxygen feed.)
the things we need to monitor are doing stuff when you press a button, period.
No need to look fancy for that.

The rest of the UI then ?
Same thing, different "feature" i want to have something done, sell an item, send a mail.
plain interface, not too much, nothing missing. if i want it to look fancy ? no need for it, but maybe i do. what would i want ?
The tasks feel instinctive? how to define that? what tells you if you like something EVERYONE will like it?
what i hear from devs is: "everyone loves it".

what i like is
Ordered, categorized, clear and precise tools to use.
Being able to filter things, disable/make things disapear. Call things back? It needs not to be a nightmare.
It needs to be in a place where i expect it to be, or to be moved there so i remember i put it there.
DONT get in the way, or needlessly over/undersized.
It has to be standardized, clear what i am doing if someone else looks at a screen cap.
tools options should be with the tool itself [small station buttons/disable notifications and more]
and we're not there yet..

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