EVE General Discussion

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this comes down to those that use their bookmarks for combat purposes and those that don't. Simply put, if you don't use them for tactical jumps in a combat situation the compass isn't as useful to you.

Combine that with a general lack of understanding about how to use the compass in the first place (indicators of what is above/below your current plane render 2d/3d arguments moot) and ignorance of the fact that most of EVE is laid out on a generally flat plane (as most solar systems are) and the end result is this thread.

Frankly, if the compass had been in EVE since day 1 you would simply accept it as a normal and necessary part of the UI and be outraged if it was removed... and if you think about it really hard you would realize there are a dozen other features of the EVE UI you see every day but rarely (if ever) make use of in your chosen profession.

I was talking about the gate jump and the forced camera swing, not the damn compass. But you probably already knew that and just wanted to butt kiss the devs.

Regardless, making too many changes and not increasing the customizability is not smart really. Too many things (large opaque tooltips, gate jump cut scenes that nauseate a portion of the player base, or a new compass that could be distracting and not functional) are being introduced into the game without giving adequate time for feedback or even attention to that feedback. Some get immediate attention after hitting tranquility because they frankly just **** off too many players (tooltips) but even then they remain a pita in some respects.

And while you were right to dispute the assertion that numbers are demonstrably shrinking, they aren't increasing either now are they. The other variable with numbers are how long are people staying on? Probably CCP can figure out how many players are simply logging on to check skills or such and then logging off. Should be interesting to see whether the more than 24 hour skill queue reduces even that reason to log on.

suggestion: maybe add Autopilot direction on compas? (why not?)

Well it's good someone knows the numbers, and how to create a strawman.

are people still playing this game on 17" CRT's or something?

How in the world is this intrusive? Its the way the game looks now.

When did so many older members of the toughest MMO become such piddley, cater to me whiners?

At the end of the day you are paying for a subscription/access to someone else's intellectual property.

No ones forcing you to do this.

And this has what to do with jumping?

Most laptopps are still somewhere in the 1366x768 or 1600x900 range.

Intrusive might be due to it being an addition which is of no value to some people and they want it gone.

Having a product not degrade in quality is now whining?

If people stop paying the subscription, then those who are for the change also suffer, both sides have equally (worthless) amount of weight behind their subscription(s).

No one is forcing you to complain about legitimate issues (this is one as it hasn't been locked as redundant).

Usefull would have been putting BM's on the over "view" not the over "lay". Missed that little detail when reading patch notes and got happy. Patched and realized my error, got disappointed. To each their own if you like it good for you. To me its slower than the people places menu which is in turn slower than the local overview and is therefore of no use othe than a distracting visual graphic. A properly setup screen in EvE is already bordering on information overload. We need better functionality and streamlining, not moving (distracting) graphical displays. I'm quite content with just being able to turn off what it shows but fail to find any use for the things it does. If it could be configured to show ships within "X" au it would be absolutely awesome for watching your gate in plexes, as it stands though...not so much. IMO

DOS rocks. Does everything you want it to, nothing you dont, doesnt hog resources and never gets in the way.
If you want pointless graphics they might as well replace the scanner list with a radar sweep and make people i.d. contacts based on track history and signal return characteristics.

How many bookmarks do you make when leading a fleet Princess?