EVE General Discussion

Can I finally suggest that CCP allow us to delete skills, now? Without people like Tippi getting up my ass about how unfair it would be to reduce the clone replacement cost. Because I can't stand looking at that stupid mining skill that I was stuck with at character creation.

No replacement cost = No need to keep skills you don't want.

To be clear. I'm not asking for respec, bank or ISK . Just let me delete the damn things if I want.

Mr Epeen

Compromise: Let us "rename" or create an alias for a skill instead. You could rename/alias Mining as "Pick Up Lines" or "Weight Lifting."

The downside is that you may actually train the skill.

It already does. All your idea will do is reduce PvP thanks to people losing their skills to fly ships for days on end. That isn't adding anything to the game, we already have high risk.

The thing is, being realistic - getting a pod out is binary. You either do, or do not and player skill has nothing to do with it.

No bubbles or bombs or lag? Always get it out. Of those three options, how many inviolve player skill? 0.


Furthermore, if there was something "exploitable" with 0 cost clones, do you not think the large blocs would already be doing that with trial accouts?

Talk to the hand, Baltie.

Mr Epeen

I have to agree with baltec1 on that one.

Taken as a whole, ship replacement costs can be significant for a corporation... and that money has to come from somewhere. Also consider that with that ship replacement agreement comes certain responsibilities for the individual pilot, often associated with participation in corp/alliance operations.

So yes, there is a cost even with ship replacement. It just isn't necessarily paid directly by the pilot at the time, or can be a cost in commitment instead of in ISK.

If they remove needing to upgrade clones, would that leave t3 ship loss as the only way to lose SP? (unless they intend to remove that as well)

The organisation backing you is suffering.

We don't run with an unlimited supply of isk.

Yes. You pretty much do. Not that the guy getting the free ship gives a **** about your first world problems. He just wants the ship.

Mr Epeen

"First, they came for the learning skills, and we rejoiced, because they told us everyone hated the learning skills, right?"

"Then, they came for the MedClones, and we rejoiced, because MedClones R hard, and I didn't have to put up with any crap like that in WoW. Mirite gais!?"

"Finally, when they came to compress all skills into 3 months of training and make all items trivial to produce because market research showed that those changes might improve new/low dedication player retention, we looked up from the wreckage of our own acquiescence in the name of 'easier for me', and realized it was far too late to save this game that we had so loved..."


To CCP: The people do not know what they want when it comes to difficulty. They think they do - and will squawk endlessly about it - but many children think they want ice cream for dinner every night, and will pitch a fit over that, too. What the people who play EVE (as opposed to other, less substantive MMO's) really want, whether they are insightful enough to recognize it or not, is to play a Massive Multiplayer Game on Stupidly-****ing-Hard mode, so that if and when they accomplish something, it's actually worth bragging about.

I hope, for the sake of its own already outstanding longevity, that EVE continues to distinguish itself from the bloated brand of games which coddle every player. Games in which nobody stands out because everyone is led by the nose to the same rewards and accomplishments through the same pseudo-challenges.