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They can have my ship, my life but not my cargo!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
#1 - 2014-11-06 02:13:59 UTC
Containers we can lock in our holds. Set your price. I will pay to spite the gate campers.


  • 2000m3 (pretty much no ships can fit in it)
  • When the ship goes it has a chance to go like any item with all the contents.
  • Otherwise it floats and can be shot or unlocked.
  • Hacking takes time.
  • Shoot endangers the contents.


So, if they have the time, all the items might be theirs. I will pay for the chance that they all *poof*.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Leonard Nimoy II
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-11-06 03:03:40 UTC
Did you lose a freighter to the recent ganks
Jenshae Chiroptera
#3 - 2014-11-06 05:06:08 UTC
Leonard Nimoy II wrote:
Did you lose a freighter to the recent ganks


Nope. Got a good load through but was thinking about it when shopping.

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#4 - 2014-11-06 05:22:39 UTC
Or just an item/module that self destructs 100% of the cargo when you die. Much better. More tears including from your corp mates who manage to bump the gankers freighter away before it scoops and now can't recover any loot.
Wolf Incaelum
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-11-06 05:24:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Wolf Incaelum
Your idea sounds a little over kill, but I like the concept. It would add a nice new twist for the gankers who are looking for a challenge.

ANARCHYFOREVAAARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
Garrus Ongrard
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-11-06 06:42:42 UTC
As a guy who has an alt (who will remain namless) that ganks on a daily basis I LOVE THIS IDEA i gank for tears not profit and am too lazy to loot things. I like the idea that other people can't profit of my fun. Twisted
Jenshae Chiroptera
#7 - 2014-11-06 07:55:54 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just an item/module that self destructs 100% of the cargo when you die. Much better. More tears including from your corp mates who manage to bump the gankers freighter away before it scoops and now can't recover any loot.


If corp mates defend the loot they can unlock the container.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#8 - 2014-11-06 08:25:25 UTC
I like it!
Alexis Nightwish
#9 - 2014-11-06 16:21:18 UTC
I'd rather see a low slot module that allows you to simply detonate everything in your ship's hold(s).

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#10 - 2014-11-06 16:41:57 UTC
Alexis Nightwish wrote:
I'd rather see a low slot module that allows you to simply detonate everything in your ship's hold(s).


And generating killmail with gankers on losing side. Goodbye green kb :)

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-11-06 17:23:31 UTC
I agree. Self destruct containers would be cool. Gotta hack em to loot em. Capacity penalty instead of bonus. If you SD your ship itself, container timer starts. Container timer keeps going even if ship is destroyed. If blown up without initiating SD, works like normal locked container in space.T2 containers naturally.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-11-06 17:28:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ix Method
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Containers we can lock in our holds. Set your price. I will pay to spite the gate campers.


  • 2000m3 (pretty much no ships can fit in it)
  • When the ship goes it has a chance to go like any item with all the contents.
  • Otherwise it floats and can be shot or unlocked.
  • Hacking takes time.
  • Shoot endangers the contents.


So, if they have the time, all the items might be theirs. I will pay for the chance that they all *poof*.

Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
If corp mates defend the loot they can unlock the container.

This would be a great little twist, trying to access it somehow makes the player vulnerable and allows their corp/fleet to defend them.

Not quite sure how the flags would work but potentially that is an awesome idea.

Travelling at the speed of love.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-11-06 17:54:18 UTC
It would be fun to be able to fill your cargohold full of self-destruct bombs and have a trigger module you could activate to set them all off. It would destroy your cargo, your ship and do damage in a radius like a smartbomb.

Haulers would have one or two to blow up their cargo if they get tackled. They could also be a new tool for suicide gankers by filling an industrial full of them.

Or some insane fool shoving thousands of them into a freighter?
Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
#14 - 2014-11-06 18:41:38 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just an item/module that self destructs 100% of the cargo when you die. Much better. More tears including from your corp mates who manage to bump the gankers freighter away before it scoops and now can't recover any loot.
To quote a friend of mine who does gank with Code., "ganking for profit is so 2010. People gank now because they can, especially when it's not profitable for them to do so."
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-11-06 19:02:00 UTC
Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just an item/module that self destructs 100% of the cargo when you die. Much better. More tears including from your corp mates who manage to bump the gankers freighter away before it scoops and now can't recover any loot.
To quote a friend of mine who does gank with Code., "ganking for profit is so 2010. People gank now because they can, especially when it's not profitable for them to do so."

Oh look. A new highsec incursion spawned!

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#16 - 2014-11-07 00:41:28 UTC
Mehrune Khan wrote:
It would be fun to be able to fill your cargohold full of self-destruct bombs and have a trigger module you could activate to set them all off. It would destroy your cargo, your ship and do damage in a radius like a smartbomb.

Haulers would have one or two to blow up their cargo if they get tackled. They could also be a new tool for suicide gankers by filling an industrial full of them.

Or some insane fool shoving thousands of them into a freighter?


As much as I agree with this. Throw more gamble into a camp, it flies in the face of CCP's unwritten rule of "serve up victims on a silver platter" design. Ugh

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
#17 - 2015-01-18 06:02:06 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Or just an item/module that self destructs 100% of the cargo when you die. Much better. More tears including from your corp mates who manage to bump the gankers freighter away before it scoops and now can't recover any loot.


This.

- Low slot module
- 1 CPU and 1 Powergrid requirement (so it can fit on freighters)
- Reuse the Doomsday Device icon
- Can be instantly activated at any time, including when ship in in structure
- Makes a titan-sized "make you eyes bleed from the prettiness" kaboom
- Leaves behind no wreck to loot or salvage
- ...but has the side effect of also instantly killing the pod.

I'm as carebear as they come. But even I don't think there should be any artificial constraints on the ability to make ships go boom in highsec. Weapons should ALWAYS fire and they should ALWAYS do some damage on the other end. Anything less would turn Eve into WoW-in-Space. But there should be a way for victims to reduce the financial self-sustainability of industrial scale ganking (other than just flying with less cargo or heavy bulkheads).

I'd rather blow everything up than let those goat f***ers have it.
Onyxa Lundra
United Operations 101
#18 - 2015-01-18 13:16:32 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Containers we can lock in our holds. Set your price. I will pay to spite the gate campers.


  • 2000m3 (pretty much no ships can fit in it)
  • When the ship goes it has a chance to go like any item with all the contents.
  • Otherwise it floats and can be shot or unlocked.
  • Hacking takes time.
  • Shoot endangers the contents.


So, if they have the time, all the items might be theirs. I will pay for the chance that they all *poof*.


What about some secure container bounded to your name so just you can open it freely.If anyone other try to open it,it consume some tag(mediocre expensive)

So when they kill you,container will stay and float.Wiill they sell it back to you?Will they open it for XXX isk to see what inside?Is it worth to sell back to you or better to market?Or is it empty and I just lose the expensive tag because it was just bait to lose pirates money?
Foxicity
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-01-18 13:38:11 UTC
How about a biometrically locked container that can only be opened by you or your corpse Big smile
Arla Sarain
#20 - 2015-01-18 15:36:27 UTC
Foxicity wrote:
How about a biometrically locked container that can only be opened by you or your corpse Big smile

Now you're thinking.
If these biometric containers were the common standard then there would be an interesting dynamic involving:

  • Finding the containers (more stuff for Cov Op frigs), spying and gathering intel
  • locating their owners or
  • obtaining their corpses, through trade/auctions, ninja looting or podding


Thing is though there is no convincing reason to store your assets in such containers because of how much risk it poses.
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