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Winter is coming! (and why it is bad for CCP)

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ISD LackOfFaith
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ISD Alliance
#21 - 2014-11-05 17:55:55 UTC
I mean, you heard that they're brightened up the nebulae in Eve with Phoebe, right? What do you think precipitated that change? Icelandic winter is obviously impacting game design decisions!

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2014-11-05 18:02:17 UTC
Apparently pipigeons can recognize patterns in the same way,
if the peck th ground twice and then turn left just before you feed them they're likely to believe that's what got them Fed.

Relevant...maybe.

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they eat birds.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#23 - 2014-11-05 18:14:31 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is a pretty silly thread.



Smartass reply: I didn't want it to outstand from the GD average!

Not so smartass reply: but, but... aren't we all having fun?

Serious reply: no, this is not a troll. The idea is just en ellaboration on Ripard Teg's analysis on the success and impact of past expansions, which is where I noticed the seasonal trend.

Admittedly I've been too lazy to check for potential official reports by the Icelandic or Norwegian governments about the impact of sunlight on the productivity of foreign employees (if they exist).

But then, this IS General Discussion. It's not as if anything would change no matter what evidence I produced, right? What?
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#24 - 2014-11-05 18:27:13 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
I mean, you heard that they're brightened up the nebulae in Eve with Phoebe, right? What do you think precipitated that change? Icelandic winter is obviously impacting game design decisions!


That would be funnier if my eyes were healthy. But they are not healthy, and this new change has made the game more uncomfortable to play.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#25 - 2014-11-05 18:32:46 UTC
DaReaper wrote:

Big list of expansions.


You forgot 2007 trinity which brought us new graphics and trust me EVE graphics before that were quite hideous.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#26 - 2014-11-05 18:50:01 UTC
Baneken wrote:
DaReaper wrote:

Big list of expansions.


You forgot 2007 trinity which brought us new graphics and trust me EVE graphics before that were quite hideous.


I have quite a bit of nostalgia for the pre-trinity graphics. I think the game looked pretty okay for something released in 03.

I really miss the shield bubble effects. I mean it is cool that the shield graphics hug your ship now, but man, I miss the old way. also even being able to see armor effects is probably a good thing. Not to mention the old black CNR with the big nasty launchers built in.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-11-05 19:41:44 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is a pretty silly thread.


You don't say?

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#28 - 2014-11-05 19:44:38 UTC
Baneken wrote:
DaReaper wrote:

Big list of expansions.


You forgot 2007 trinity which brought us new graphics and trust me EVE graphics before that were quite hideous.



right yes that would be considered a summer expantion

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#29 - 2014-11-05 20:09:38 UTC
Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:
Does Canada use sunshine for anything? We can take theirs.

Leave our sunlight alone!

We need it for maple syrup bacon reasons...

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Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#30 - 2014-11-05 20:39:30 UTC
When I was on the CCP HQ tour earlier this year one thing I noticed about there offices and work stations that I would not of expected was how low the lighting levels were set for the most part. It is how I like to game at home, dimmer lights, more relaxed environment, I doubt they notice the change of the seasons much from inside the building.

As for our Canadian Sunshine, don't you dare try to steal it, we barely get enough of it as it is.

I will be sure to make sure we send some extra Winter South of the border this season too, we get far too much of that as it is and there is always extra to share with our Southerly neighbors.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#31 - 2014-11-05 20:41:46 UTC
Jake Rivers wrote:
When I was on the CCP HQ tour earlier this year one thing I noticed about there offices and work stations that I would not of expected was how low the lighting levels were set for the most part. It is how I like to game at home, dimmer lights, more relaxed environment, I doubt they notice the change of the seasons much from inside the building.

As for our Canadian Sunshine, don't you dare try to steal it, we barely get enough of it as it is.

I will be sure to make sure we send some extra Winter South of the border this season too, we get far too much of that as it is and there is always extra to share with our Southerly neighbors.



yes please, California needs rain.. badly

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Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-11-05 21:42:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Snagletooth Johnson
Yes CCP beware, because after over 10 years in business we all know not winter has ever set upon this earth, therefore, you are not prepared....

Hey, isn't Global Footwarmer GoreManPig thingy supposed to remove winters already? When's that supposed to happen? Come on Al Gore, you must save CCP and end winter soon!!!
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-11-05 22:02:55 UTC
Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
There are lamps providing 10,000 Lux incandescent light, which is about as bright as a middle European clear winter's daylight.

I am pretty sure they can cope with the lack of daylight ours.


We need a giant space mirror to redirect sunlight from unimportant people to the offices at CCP!

Does Canada use sunshine for anything? We can take theirs.

Feel free...

There aren't many Canadians in Canada anymore...
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-11-05 22:05:15 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is a pretty silly thread.



yet i can't help but notice your not actually denying it maybe the op is on to something.

after all a recent medical study shows that working shifts that vary between mornings, afternoons and nights is likely to result in a reduction in brain power ( http://www.cityam.com/1415098886/regularly-working-late-night-or-early-morning-reduces-intelligence-and-it-takes-five )

with Iceland it varys a lot due to it being so far north December the 21st only gets 4 hours of daylight must be interesting to watch a sun set at like 9am yet apparently not good for your brain

and with it taking upto 5 years to fully recover imagen how great eve would be if they relocated to Madrid or Rome
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#35 - 2014-11-05 22:52:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
Yes CCP beware, because after over 10 years in business we all know not winter has ever set upon this earth, therefore, you are not prepared....

Hey, isn't Global Footwarmer GoreManPig thingy supposed to remove winters already? When's that supposed to happen? Come on Al Gore, you must save CCP and end winter soon!!!


As a matter of fact, the issue is with daylight hours.
45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#36 - 2014-11-06 01:30:07 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This is a pretty silly thread.



Well OP CCP would need to huddle up together to keep each other warm if the heater was not workingBig smileP

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45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#37 - 2014-11-06 01:40:18 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
I mean, you heard that they're brightened up the nebulae in Eve with Phoebe, right? What do you think precipitated that change? Icelandic winter is obviously impacting game design decisions!


Good sense of humor LackOfFaith Big smile

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#38 - 2014-11-06 01:50:47 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
So short that it could be its own TL;DR, the fact is that there is a pattern of different quality of past expansions, depending on when they were developed. Summer expansions, developed during winter, used to be weaker than winter expansions, developed during summer. The pattern of "meh / wow" is quite noticeable: Incursion (wow) Incarna (MEH) Crucible (wow) Inferno (meh) Retribution (wow) Odyssey (meh) Rubicon (wow)

As CCP relies on foreign talent, and weather in Iceland is quite extreme in terms of daylight hours, there could be a external cause to the different performance, with shorter days in winter leading to poorer performance. And now with several releases to be started/completed during winter, maybe would be wise to be extra careful and don't do anything (too much) irreversible. Blink

Thus, I would advise CCP Seagull one thing: winter is coming! Ugh



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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-11-06 02:29:57 UTC
Winter is bad for CCP because it gets even more unbearably cold up there. I don't know how you guys live in sub 30C temperatures.

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#40 - 2014-11-06 02:31:13 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
There are lamps providing 10,000 Lux incandescent light, which is about as bright as a middle European clear winter's daylight.

I am pretty sure they can cope with the lack of daylight ours.

Although light therapy can lessen the occurrence of SAD and other light deprivation conditions there is no replacement for natural light, or so says the science.

So cope, maybe. Be at peak productivity and creativity, doubtful.
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