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Attention Citizens of High Sec

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#21 - 2014-11-05 21:01:06 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Because wardecs aren't fair, amirite?

Actually they aren't. Mechanically speaking they're very strongly biased in favor of the defender.
CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#22 - 2014-11-05 21:22:14 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Because wardecs aren't fair, amirite?

Actually they aren't. Mechanically speaking they're very strongly biased in favor of the defender.


Tell that to whoever Cannibal Kane decs....

The Artist Formerly Known As AC. 

The terminal end of the digestive system. 

The Best CSM Candidate

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-11-05 21:51:01 UTC
CODE Agent AC wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Because wardecs aren't fair, amirite?

Actually they aren't. Mechanically speaking they're very strongly biased in favor of the defender.


Tell that to whoever Cannibal Kane decs....


You are correct AC, but I still don't disagree with Vimsy.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#24 - 2014-11-06 09:27:42 UTC
pushdogg wrote:
i think they provide a valuable service, taking the afk botting miners out of the game.

10 mil isk is nothing for the permit. being at your computer(well this is just a given), and general awareness is all they are promoting.....stop afk mining and im sure they will stop.



I've been successfully ganked once. And they failed the second time. Both times I wasn't offered a permit at any point. Both times I was at my keyboard and I've never botted.

I discourage running with scissors.

CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#25 - 2014-11-06 09:37:59 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
pushdogg wrote:
i think they provide a valuable service, taking the afk botting miners out of the game.

10 mil isk is nothing for the permit. being at your computer(well this is just a given), and general awareness is all they are promoting.....stop afk mining and im sure they will stop.



I've been successfully ganked once. And they failed the second time. Both times I wasn't offered a permit at any point. Both times I was at my keyboard and I've never botted.


Maybe you should consider we are like the Yankees and required a clean cut.

Or maybe you did not greet agents in local.

Without proof this is hard to say.

English cucumbers are tasty.

The Artist Formerly Known As AC. 

The terminal end of the digestive system. 

The Best CSM Candidate

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#26 - 2014-11-06 09:56:42 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
I've been successfully ganked once. And they failed the second time. Both times I wasn't offered a permit at any point. Both times I was at my keyboard and I've never botted.

But you just admitted that you had no permit, so you are clearly guilty. I recommend you contact your local New Order Agent and purchase one immediately.
Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#27 - 2014-11-06 10:23:27 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Alastair Ormand wrote:
I've been successfully ganked once. And they failed the second time. Both times I wasn't offered a permit at any point. Both times I was at my keyboard and I've never botted.

But you just admitted that you had no permit, so you are clearly guilty. I recommend you contact your local New Order Agent and purchase one immediately.


Guilty of what exactly?

I discourage running with scissors.

Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#28 - 2014-11-06 10:42:24 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Alastair Ormand wrote:
I've been successfully ganked once. And they failed the second time. Both times I wasn't offered a permit at any point. Both times I was at my keyboard and I've never botted.

But you just admitted that you had no permit, so you are clearly guilty. I recommend you contact your local New Order Agent and purchase one immediately.


Guilty of what exactly?


Violating the Code by mining without a permit in highsec obviously.

Read all about it at www.minerbumping.com

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Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!

Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#29 - 2014-11-06 11:04:04 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Alastair Ormand wrote:
I've been successfully ganked once. And they failed the second time. Both times I wasn't offered a permit at any point. Both times I was at my keyboard and I've never botted.

But you just admitted that you had no permit, so you are clearly guilty. I recommend you contact your local New Order Agent and purchase one immediately.


Guilty of what exactly?


Violating the Code by mining without a permit in highsec obviously.

Read all about it at www.minerbumping.com


Where I mine, Amarr owns sovereignty and therefore sets the laws of the area. I undock and don't die to the local police and therefore I must be acting within their laws. You however trigger a police response enforcing your law in someone elses soverignty (namely 0.5 security systems and above, policed by CONCORD). I will not follow the laws set by CODE and I hope many others wont.

You are no more than thugs and deserve to be treated as such.

I discourage running with scissors.

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-11-06 12:03:00 UTC
CODE Agent AC wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Because wardecs aren't fair, amirite?

Actually they aren't. Mechanically speaking they're very strongly biased in favor of the defender.


Tell that to whoever Cannibal Kane decs....


That is a false perception.

Vimsy is talking about the ability of the defender to completely nullifying the war by closing and reopening the corp.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Boomboom Longtime
Dead Eternity
#31 - 2014-11-06 12:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Where I mine, Amarr owns sovereignty and therefore sets the laws of the area. I undock and don't die to the local police and therefore I must be acting within their laws. You however trigger a police response enforcing your law in someone elses soverignty (namely 0.5 security systems and above, policed by CONCORD). I will not follow the laws set by CODE and I hope many others wont.

You are no more than thugs and deserve to be treated as such.


Excellent response and very logical, FTW. This is why my miner never has and never will pay for mining or hauling, its akin to the mafia but with a dark side thats a very narrow slippery slope down into the abyss of what lies beneath.


Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.
Shailagh Rose
WTB Somalians
#32 - 2014-11-06 12:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Boomboom Longtime wrote:
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Where I mine, Amarr owns sovereignty and therefore sets the laws of the area. I undock and don't die to the local police and therefore I must be acting within their laws. You however trigger a police response enforcing your law in someone elses soverignty (namely 0.5 security systems and above, policed by CONCORD). I will not follow the laws set by CODE and I hope many others wont.

You are no more than thugs and deserve to be treated as such.


Excellent response and very logical, FTW. This is why my miner never has and never will pay for mining or hauling, its akin to the mafia but with a dark side thats a very narrow slippery slope down into the abyss of what lies beneath.


Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.


I shall make you pay chump
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#33 - 2014-11-06 13:15:26 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Where I mine, Amarr owns sovereignty and therefore sets the laws of the area. I undock and don't die to the local police and therefore I must be acting within their laws. You however trigger a police response enforcing your law in someone elses soverignty (namely 0.5 security systems and above, policed by CONCORD). I will not follow the laws set by CODE and I hope many others wont.

You are no more than thugs and deserve to be treated as such.

Indeed most people only accept the Code after their spaceship explodes to the local Agents guns. You see, in EVE there are different game mechanics in different parts of space, they define the consequences of actions, like for example CONCORD in Highsec. People often think that because of that game mechanic it is not possible to project power in Highsec and claim the systems. People are often wrong.

The NPC and lore stuff may be entertaining and for some people relevant for their roleplaying. But it will not prevent your spaceship from exploding. I invite you to ignore us anyway and mine with faith in Amarr only and your untanked Hulk in a 0.5 system of your choice.
Ji'Ta d'Price
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-11-06 16:02:23 UTC
Alliria Seedspawn wrote:
... snipped...

Wow! Nice bit of roleplaying right there. You guys really are the roleplaying kings of EVE.
Alliria Seedspawn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-11-06 17:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Alliria Seedspawn
The New Order of High Sec thanks all of you brave citizens that have stepped up and notified the Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec of the illegal activities taking place in your neighborhoods. Rest assured that all reports are being investigated, and that steps are actively being taken to end their illegal and dangerous activities.

Keep up the good work! It's people like you that are the reason the New Order of High Sec has been, and continues to be, so successful. Together, we all achieve more!
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#36 - 2014-11-07 05:00:00 UTC
Can I notify you guys of the dangerous corporation Swordmasters of New Eden? A very dangerous corp that refuses to purchase a mining permit that deserves at least 50 consecutive wardeccs. Their fearless leader is a leading opponent of CODE, gankers, scammers, awoxxers, wardeccers, and all others who threaten the peace and effervescent tranquility of highsec.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-11-07 05:04:13 UTC
Get out.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#38 - 2014-11-07 08:19:09 UTC
You can just ignore Veers, he does not actually play EVE
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-11-07 08:50:15 UTC
Need to improve the roleplayer.. you cannot promote ORDER and be revolutionary at same time. ITs like the stupid impossible concept of the moderate rebels that Obama tries to find... probably living among elves and fairies.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#40 - 2014-11-07 09:08:33 UTC
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Where I mine, Amarr owns sovereignty and therefore sets the laws of the area.


What kind of self-respecting, slightly deranged, immortal lets some stupid little empire boss them around?

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff