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New sensor overlay features
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Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#1 - 2014-11-04 18:34:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemun Khanid
Are so far as I can tell, utterly useless. Adding personal bookmarks to the over view would have been amazingly useful, instead we get some colors around a ring that are completely non interact-able and do absolutely nothing but point a direction. Might be of value if it were in a game where you actually manually piloted your ship, alas that is not EvE. It's just something else to pop up an annoying info window every time you accidentally pass your mouse over it.
Any attempt actually searching through visual space to find an object to warp to is painfully slower than just selecting it out of the bookmarks window or out of the overview. Why would anyone waste so much time as to sit there spinning the camera around while watching that ridiculous compass just to see what direction something is in? If I want to know which direction it's in I'll select it in a fraction of the time from a list and align.

2 thumbs down.

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#2 - 2014-11-04 23:48:47 UTC
It is useful in a number of edge cases, like using D-scan to check which site within D-scan range someone is in, but otherwise is purely bells and whistles.

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Zekora Rally
U2EZ
#3 - 2014-11-05 03:31:45 UTC
I think the new overlay works best for those who live in whs.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#4 - 2014-11-05 11:43:02 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
They are not useless. Visual indicator of bookmark locations when using multiple perches around a station or gate is very neat and useful for example.

To be fair though I made the same assessment of them myself at first glance.

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Gosti Kahanid
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-11-05 12:03:38 UTC
I live in a WH and don´t see how the compass would benefit me in any way.
To be able to see bookmarks and also configure what I see in the sensor overlay (Anomalies and Signatures) is awesome and can stay, but the compass-thing...
I hope they make it optional
Elyas Crux
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-11-05 12:18:31 UTC
The sensor overlay is hugely useful when trying to locate something you found on D-scan and are narrowing down before starting a quick combat-scan. When trying to combat-probe someone who is not at a warp-able celestial and in a 'safe-spot' you can generally only allow one or two scan cycles with the combat probes and must first locate their general area in space. For most players the sensor overlay is aesthetic but for some players it is hugely functional.
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#7 - 2014-11-05 15:43:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemun Khanid
Elyas Crux wrote:
The sensor overlay is hugely useful when trying to locate something you found on D-scan and are narrowing down before starting a quick combat-scan. When trying to combat-probe someone who is not at a warp-able celestial and in a 'safe-spot' you can generally only allow one or two scan cycles with the combat probes and must first locate their general area in space. For most players the sensor overlay is aesthetic but for some players it is hugely functional.


I fail to see how this is even remotely the case. The compass doesn't indicate the direction of anything other than bm's and anomalies. Dscan angle is still the only method of determining the general direction/location of another ship before deploying combat probes.

The only way it could even possibly be useful when trying to dscan the location of a ship is if you are manually pointing the camera around looking for plexes/celestials and are using the compass/overlay to figure out where to point it. If that's how you are aiming your dscan you're doing it wrong anyway.

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Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#8 - 2014-11-05 15:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemun Khanid
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
They are not useless. Visual indicator of bookmark locations when using multiple perches around a station or gate is very neat and useful for example.

To be fair though I made the same assessment of them myself at first glance.


The "neatness" of being able to see what direction a bookmark hardly justifies the time put into this thing or the annoyance having all the little colors spinning around my readouts. If you're actually warping between those bm's it's far faster and more efficient to use the bm list. I would pay to have bm's put in the overview so I don't have to keep the people/places window open or I would have been far happier with a bookmark window that updates to only show bm's in your current system so I don't have to scroll through a list of hundreds of systems looking for the right one every time I go through a gate, but this thing is just irritating. (IMO) When I initially saw the patch notes and saw mention of bookmarks on the "overlay" my hopes went through the roof. Then I got in game and realized the it was this goofy compass and not the actual "overview" and my dreams were crushed. Sad

(apologies for the multipost)

Daemun of Khanid
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2014-11-05 16:13:24 UTC
Clearly you have never tried to pick which on-grid bookmark you need to warp to while under fire. Being able to see the bookmark in space (you are zoomed out, right?) rather than clicking through a list of dropdowns and reading through another list means you get to where you need to be faster.

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Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#10 - 2014-11-05 16:34:30 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Clearly you have never tried to pick which on-grid bookmark you need to warp to while under fire. Being able to see the bookmark in space (you are zoomed out, right?) rather than clicking through a list of dropdowns and reading through another list means you get to where you need to be faster.


If you're prepared for combat then that list should already be preloaded and ready for use. Flipping a camera around looking for a blue square is in no way EVER going to be faster than right clicking on a list that is open and ready.

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