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High sec ganking 11-3-2014

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#21 - 2014-11-03 07:18:18 UTC
Just my honest thought, I think half (or more) of the problem is that many view that ganks are something that are possible due to poor game design...that it shouldn't be possible, just is because CCP "can't or won't fix them".

The fact that plenty of "carebears" will tell you that ganking is not a problem should tell you guys something. Again, just saying.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Spazzy Fit
Citalopram Appreciation Society
#22 - 2014-11-03 07:18:53 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Spazzy Fit wrote:
This of course could easily be avoidable with a very affordable mining permit!

Minerbumping bingo card at the ready, two ticked off already. Please continue.



I've mined over 1.5 million M3 this week, don't have one of your fruity little mining permits. feel free to eatshit and die.

Avoiding this involves staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K. I mine to make AF's and Pilgrims because unlike you, I have the balls to step in to null sec.


Oh bless you, you really don't know much do you. Most code pilots are acts of null sec players. Including me.

Oh and thanks for ticking another box on my bingo card!
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2014-11-03 07:28:14 UTC
We are just making corrections to the risk and reward in high-sec, with our guns.

Leave it to the CSM to lobby like gentlemen.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Sakaron Hefdover
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-11-03 07:41:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Sakaron Hefdover
vegetuh wrote:
Stuff



Don't mine within 5 Jumps of Jita, find some overly long to reach backwater and Set CODE to red, if They are about, fly in a tanked procurer.

Now, Can I have your stuff?
Josef Djugashvilis
#25 - 2014-11-03 07:46:07 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
vegetuh wrote:
I'm closing my accounts for good, High sec ganking Is way to out of control. Iv seen capital ships fall In high sec, I just lost a mining ship to 3 ships. It's BS, I'm not saying it shouldn't be impossible In high sec. But It should be harder, with much higher consequences then a 15 minute time out. And I know why CCP does little to nothing about it's because CCP wants people to loose isk, it keeps people buying PLEX's and keep the market flowing. But this @#$t is unreasonable, Iv seen a gang of 3 people kill 4 people an hour for 3 hours in high sec. As a miner loosing a tech 2 is ALOT of hours down the tube making isk to buy the ship, sh#$ happens i know that. But a group like that and the only worry they have a 15 minute time out @#$ing please. Iv been playing for 4 years and have 2 accounts, but seems recently high sec ganking really picked up. The pirate has little to no risk attacking someone who is just trying to move high value items they worked hours on in to get or make. With CCP saying your sol, yea people that lost their butt off are SOL because you designed the system. I can feel the trolls coming out from under neath their rocks ready to post, and I'm sure people that high sec gank are ready to respond to because they are the ones getting everything from people that play hard to actually make isk in the game while getting crapped on by CCP. It would understand if people that died by pirates were in low sec or null sec they know the risk. CCP favors pirates, the thought of making isk easy with low risk makes it more interesting right..


sorry to hear that buddy. yes gankers a scourge, hopefully CCP will clear them out of high sec in due time if enough people follow through and leave because of it.

ganking and most other forms of PvP belong in low, null and wormholes i feel.


Lady, your post is trolling of the lowest order, just stop it.

This is not a signature.
Josef Djugashvilis
#26 - 2014-11-03 07:49:23 UTC
Spazzy Fit wrote:
This of course could easily be avoidable with a very affordable mining permit!

Minerbumping bingo card at the ready, two ticked off already. Please continue.


I cannot see a post by the fearsome CODE without thinking of this song and their heroic performance in the AT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEPx9bkpkh8

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#27 - 2014-11-03 07:51:22 UTC
I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it.

Skydell wrote:
staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K.
Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner.

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Jegrey Dozer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-11-03 07:52:53 UTC
I can not believe a 4 year old player to be this naive. Therefore, OP is definitely a troll in my eyes.

For those of you who are actually falling victim to similar situations as the OP described, I can tell you that you're being lazy and need to do some homework. Right now, Kernite and Plagioclase are #3 and #4, respectively, on the ISK/hour chart for mining.

You can find Kernite in 0.7(or lower) security systems and you can find Plagioclase in 0.9(or lower) security systems.

Concord response time for 0.7 security system: Roughly 10 seconds

Concord response time for 0.9 security system: Roughly 6 seconds

Stop going to 0.5 security systems, which have an 18 second concord response time, to mine and the problem is solved.

I don't even mine and I know this...
vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-11-03 08:05:59 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it.

Skydell wrote:
staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K.
Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner.



You see me crying about this?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41341243/


No, it was a good kill I knew the risk of flying in low sec. I know the game, Its full of risk and playing smart. But people doing what ever they want to who ever they want as long as they want in high sec I wont accept. AGAIN, I am not saying it should be impossible. but there should be a much higher consequence for doing it. They randomly killed me with a 10 mil ship to kill me and do that for hours on in. But if there was a much higher consequence they would have to choose their targets alot more carefully. Its not fair to players who play hard to make isk to have some douch in a 10 mil ship blow them up hoping to get rich off of their work with no consequence in high sec.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#30 - 2014-11-03 08:16:29 UTC
vegetuh wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it.

Skydell wrote:
staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K.
Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner.



You see me crying about this?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41341243/


No, it was a good kill I knew the risk of flying in low sec. I know the game, Its full of risk and playing smart. But people doing what ever they want to who ever they want as long as they want in high sec I wont accept. AGAIN, I am not saying it should be impossible. but there should be a much higher consequence for doing it. They randomly killed me with a 10 mil ship to kill me and do that for hours on in. But if there was a much higher consequence they would have to choose their targets alot more carefully. Its not fair to players who play hard to make isk to have some douch in a 10 mil ship blow them up hoping to get rich off of their work with no consequence in high sec.

We already do pick our targets carefully. That's why we picked you. Blink

It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.


There are all our dominion

Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
Paranoid Loyd
#31 - 2014-11-03 08:17:46 UTC
Yarr Pirate

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-11-03 08:21:50 UTC
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
vegetuh wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
I like how the OP cuts to the core of the carebear mentality, that when the game provides some challenge, any challenge, no matter how small, it's the job of CCP to step in and remove it.

Skydell wrote:
staying in .8 sec, watching for mining Anoms and buffer tanking your ship. My Macki has 40K Kin/therm and if I see known trash filling up local, I can get a Skiff to 110K.
Thank you for mining in a largely Code-compliant manner.



You see me crying about this?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41341243/


No, it was a good kill I knew the risk of flying in low sec. I know the game, Its full of risk and playing smart. But people doing what ever they want to who ever they want as long as they want in high sec I wont accept. AGAIN, I am not saying it should be impossible. but there should be a much higher consequence for doing it. They randomly killed me with a 10 mil ship to kill me and do that for hours on in. But if there was a much higher consequence they would have to choose their targets alot more carefully. Its not fair to players who play hard to make isk to have some douch in a 10 mil ship blow them up hoping to get rich off of their work with no consequence in high sec.

We already do pick our targets carefully. That's why we picked you. Blink

It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.






Thats why they picked me, cause they were going to loose more then they gained?? makes no sense.
vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-11-03 08:23:51 UTC


It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.


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Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
Lister Dax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-11-03 08:27:47 UTC
vegetuh wrote:
I As a miner loosing a tech 2 is ALOT of hours down the tube making isk to buy the ship,


Tank mods, use them.....
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-11-03 08:28:37 UTC
vegetuh wrote:


It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.


Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
You got ganked. You have two options:

A) take action to avoid getting ganked

B) suggest that CCP take action to nerf ganking


Why, for god's sake, did you choose option B), when option A) is so damn easy?

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#36 - 2014-11-03 08:34:34 UTC
Poor baby, heres a tissue - T2 Tissue
vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-11-03 08:42:55 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
vegetuh wrote:


It is a fact that if every player mined and hauled with perfect fits and strategy there would be 0 targets to gank. The problem you and others have is not having figured out those fits and strategies.


Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.
You got ganked. You have two options:

A) take action to avoid getting ganked

B) suggest that CCP take action to nerf ganking


Why, for god's sake, did you choose option B), when option A) is so damn easy?




I'v already explained this like 10 times, I'm not saying remove it. It should be possible to gank in high sec, but it should not be acceptible for a person to go around killing people in high sec all day every day with no consequence. Like this person,

https://zkillboard.com/character/94401447/


The only consequence is he wastes 10 mil, so he can go around killing all day randomly In hopes he can wipe out anothers person's hard work to get rich. Killing in null sec, low sec and high sec if you are precise should be acceptable. But going around killing all day with disregard for other players cause your not risking anything to me isn't acceptable.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#38 - 2014-11-03 08:44:51 UTC
Such op.

Many tears.

Very lol.

Much stuffs.

I can haz?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2014-11-03 08:45:44 UTC
vegetuh wrote:




Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.


Again I ask you, do you even know what punishments are given out for ganking or the risks involved?
vegetuh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-11-03 08:49:28 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
vegetuh wrote:




Again they had nothing to worry about, no risk thats why they killed me.


Again I ask you, do you even know what punishments are given out for ganking or the risks involved?



What a kill right, what a joke like I already said they just had a friend activate before ganking someone else so when concord killed them it took away the kill right. And a lower security status, ouch sure he feels that one.
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