Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Drones or neuts..

Webs are more effective on a frigate when the frigate is attempting to establish the orbit. That's when your transversal is screwed for a few seconds where you eat medium gun damage, and are dead or almost dead. Then the drones / neut will finish you off.

Once the frigate has established the oribt, the web alone won't allow the medium guns to track it, even 2 webs (because of sig radius effect on tracking).

I really like the idea of a 'deadzone' for the web, or perhaps an inverse falloff so between 0-5km the effectiveness is cut in half. This will allow you to chase down kiters.

It isn't about webs killing frigates. It is about webs detracting from the primary attribute of frigates that makes their type of gameplay balanced and enjoyable. Honestly dual propulsion defeats most of the larger penalties for webbing anyway. It just doesn't make any sense that frigates have to deal with a module that focuses on stripping their speed down when engaging any type of ship. It reduces the types of gameplay to be had with the class down to narrower elements than usual. It keeps frigates and smalls out of having reasonable roles in fleets, because if a fleet of frigates comes across a fleet of webbing cruisers it is invariably defeated. It makes frigate vs frigate fights less interesting, and its gameplay quality is literally comparable to a module that reduces the hp of vessel by a large percentage. Obviously a module like that would serve to be a disadvantage to large vessels the most. Flying frigates is all about managing heat, vectoring, cap, transversal, angular velocity, ammo, distances, and range. A module that flatly reduces speed reduces the necessity of all of that, and instead encourages frigates to either be really tanky, super kitey ships, or dual prop. Also, you are not the only one who "thinks this is s***** as f***", but you are the only troll left who decided to keep commenting without adding anything to the discussion. It seems that you might be the person who is actually missing the point.

To get rid of webs----or limit them to certain ships would change how the game is played and would only encourage more blobs or rapier alts.

I fly almost exclusively in a frig, and webs are REQUIRED on most ships. Without a web, I would not be able to catch certain ships, or faster ones would burn out of range. Every ship has different attributes. Caldari ships are generally slower, but to make up have weapon systems that are unaffected by tracking disruptors. Gallente ships are slower....but have higher dps guns. Blah blah blah.

The game would be called Kite online if you got rid of webs. ALL cruisers would fit long range weapons and would not be phased by scramming ships due to the limited range.

no. stop being so mad. you lost in a fight. deal with it.

Brainwave: what if we made webs reduce the signature of the target? Not by the same amount as the velocity reduction, of course, but say by 30%? That would push them more in the direction of keeping a target at a particular place on the field, rather than being a raw DPS increase. It would also provide more justification for increasing the bonus from target painters. Tips the balance a bit more towards frigates without killing the way that webs are used for positional control.

It also places them in the realm of scrams, where there are actually tactical situations where scramming the target is a bad idea for damage application (due to MWD sig bloom).