EVE General Discussion

im sure its been said....but just buy a permit and dont be afk....or equip some kind of tank....its mind boggling how many people refuse to fit a tank.

Hm, in the last page or so most of the posts have been from non-code folks.
Or is it just that anyone who gives sound advice rather than waving the bloody shirt is now automatically considered to be a CODE. alt?

Buy a mining permit and dont be afk

If you pay me 1 bill I will explain how you blue status with every ganking group in the game. This of course will make you completely impervious to all future suicide gank attempts. Please let me know if this offer is agreeable.

First of all lets deal with the freighter ganking, fit bulkheads to your ship, never ever use auto-pilot, do not move your freighter without webbing assistence, there is a fleet fit webbing Loki used in Zealot fleets which is perfect for this job, as it has a tank of 176k EHP, use twin faction webs and you will be safe. Time zones are another important aspect, if you can move your freighter in the two hours either side of DT during the week do it. Bad periods to move are full on EU and US TZ's. Its all about numbers of people able to group up to beat the EHP. Seriously do not move stuff above 2bn in value unless it is a short hop and away from the main trade lines.

Mining ships, for a number of years I among many agitated for an improvement in tank for mining barges/exhumers, evantually and rather late in the day CCP obliged, why on earth are people mining in these ships without a tank fitted, and if you really want to stop ganking its quite simple everyone who mines in hisec should setup and use a fully tanked Skiff. Do that and the tears of gankers will be awesome to behold. Case in point, I warped to a belt and arrived at zero at the same time as a smart bombing BS, around me were 7 other mining ships, I was in a tanked skiff, I did not die and my shield easily withstood the damage, not so those next to me, all of them died and their fits were not tanked, many of them still had cargo expender rigs in for gods sake!!! And that was 4 months after the change to an ore bay.

Forget about raging at them, forget about crying in local or on forums, forget about forming stupid anti gank or white knight coalitions that do not work due to the mechanics, just keep silent, tank your ship and move if the hassling gets too strong and in any case shall I point out that bumping a Skiff is difficult, its the fastest mining barge and if you orbit a roid at 5,000 metres its very difficult to bump. The only time I was visited by a code member I did just that and ignored him in local, he went and hassled someone else...

The only way to deal with this is if enough people stop giving these people easy kills and tears to fund their ego's.

If you mine never whine!
Stop a Gank fit a tank
If in doubt get the hell out
if they flock go and dock
Don't be a static lump if you don't want that bump
Warping to zero will make you a dead hero
Don't give a fig is why you did not change that rig
Get the gankers in a tiff, use a skiff

simple isn't it!

Yes you are, there are plenty of ways you can criticize code without going "they're promoting bottling so their botters ore prices go up."

Wrong. I'm saying the effect they have is positive to botters. I'm not claiming that is their intent, it could purely be incompetence. You are misrepresenting that.

Also the quote you are responding to here has nothing to do with that. This quote is abotu how permits are irrelevant since the only way for a permit to be valid is to tank yourself so that they won't attack you anyway.

Confirmed. I had my guy banned when I said "why don't you just not autopilot?".

It was hilarious.

I am sure it has been mentioned, but purchase a permit and adhere to The Code.

Where? At most I may have suggested it could be intent, but I've also suggested it could be incompetence. Not to mention the multiple times I've restated that since.

Basically, you know that I'm correct when pointing out that permits are irrelevant, so rather than admit that you want to divert the subject by misrepresenting my views. That man, he needs more straw.