EVE General Discussion

That kind of thinking is why you fail.

How is being able to shoot at a suspect or criminal not enabling you to hit gankers? How is the public list of shareholders not enabling you to go after one of their income streams via wardecs and merc contracts? Gankers have alts, they have a logistics chain, most are kill on sight, figure out their instaundocks, camp them. Camp the stations they work from with fast locking alpha, a gank cat is extremely squishy after all; ECM them, just do something that shows some creative thinking and doesn't involve you posting on the forums.

Hook up with Anslo, or Bronson*; kill Dryson for doing more harm to the image of antiganking than anything else.
Educate, teach newbies that going AFK isn't a particularly good idea neither is shooting at the guy that just stole some loot, the basics of tanking beyond the limited scope of a tutorial that gives an Amarr player a shield tanking skill book, that people will come and explode their stuff if they allow them to.

Teach them that risk is a fact in Eve and how to minimise it.

*I don't consider Bronson to be anti anything, he is however pro-content and does shoot at suicide gankers.

Those things require not being a gutless coward, Jonah.

Sheep don't stop being sheep if you paint stripes on them.

Who's fault is that? The carebears don't want to know, the AG collective is pitiful, Dryson is a joke as are most of their ops. Anslo is the only one that even came close, he at least gave some reasonable fitting advice. It's hardly CCP's fault that both the AG people and carebears are for the most part ignorant of game mechanics, who want change because they don't want to learn the existing ones, who dislike those that do understand the game mechanics.

So short sighted. If you can't hit the gankers directly, hit them elsewhere, I suggested some options earlier. Suicide ganking bumpers and logistics associated with gankers makes you a vigilante, not a criminal. Be the Batman to their Joker. You might learn something in the process.

If AG were at all effective as a group, and actually knew what they were doing that may not be the case. AG are a joke, they couldn't organise an evenings entertainment in a brothel, and most haven't got a clue, gankers on the other hand are organised and know exactly what they're doing.

You keep right on doing so, and myself and others will keep right on pushing back, ingame and on the forums.

You've never experienced the aftermath of a nerf to highsec PvP have you? If I know the Belligerent Undesirable types in highsec, things are about to get a lot worse for those who fail to protect themselves.

Playing what role? Disinterested Observer? Professor of highsec?

Sorry, was laughing too hard at this part. I believe that reasoned discourse is an important part of Eve, and debated CODE on their in game minerbumping channel until they banned, and until a couple of weeks ago was on the in game BU channel until Arden banned me for refusing to join/support CODE. 90% of the time there was spent either watching people engaged in petty fights in chat with each other, or suspect baiting mission runners, etc... The idea that they have either the manpower or the resources to light highsec on fire is, quite simply, laughable.

Every time someone replies to a Veers shiptoast the Flying Spaghetti Monster eats a kitten.
Stahp.
Think of the kittens.

Years of mining, never ganked... even back in ye olde days when I was still mining in a cormy to try to save up the money for my first barge.

Same years, so much hauling, mostly in badgers. Blapped a few times in low and null, but high sec? Negative, a few pucker moments but that was pretty much it... well, that and avoiding Jita like the plague.

Special snowflake? Oh no. I was simply put, living in fear every time I undocked in a non-combat ship... and loving it. It was a dark and scary place, especially before warp to zero.

It's quite a bit less scary now, kids these days just don't believe that and are unwilling to listen to good advice because they already know better.

You and I are on opposite sides of the pond - we should do this as a joint venture for maximum timezone coverage.

Question:
Who is the greatest shiptoaster in the veers?

No, I am not. There's no conspiracy involved. If you are tanked enough for your permit to be considered valid, then you don't need a permit anyway, so the permit itself is irrelevant. How you think that is conspiracy talk rather than plain old fact is beyond me. I guess your incredible desire to defend the code guys leaves logic and rationality to one side.

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