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Ignorant Question: Should I Join FW?

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Grimwood
Proioxis Assault Force
Rogue Caldari Union
#21 - 2014-11-06 20:32:50 UTC
BigDaddy Toothbrush wrote:
Stalence wrote:
Soren Moller wrote:
Oreb Wing wrote:
Many new players find it is a blast. If you can fit t2 mods with decent navigation skills, you might feel more competent enough to adapt after a loss than to be discouraged by it. Leadership and content depends only on how willing you are to learn without fear of failure. Good luck.


So perhaps I should run around in hisec for a month or two until I have a few skills up, do you think?

Any advice on well-respected CalMil people? A quick look over at EveWho made me notice Templis.


Templis has a lot of corps and a lot of 'doctine' fits that are new-pilot friendly. Feel free to drop an application in!


Although I hate fighting Templis because of Grimwood and his MacGuyver-esque duct taped WD40 1-mil isk frigate specials. That said, I'm sure you could fit the modules with whatever skills you have and they have lots of guys that you can get advice from. Plus, I highly recommend people join Calmil because I want more faces to blap off when I'm in the mood.

Good luck in your search.

Uncle Tooth


Do my tactics actually bother you all or something? I figured you'd enjoy the kills you get from me
Phaade
Surreptitious Technologies
Shadow Ultimatum
#22 - 2014-11-06 20:32:54 UTC
Domino Vyse wrote:
Be a pirate and kill everyone.

If you join FW you will quickly learn that it is full of autistic , self absorbed neckbeards. Calmil less so than Galmil, but the same applies.




More or less, but it's difficult (impossible) to make money PvPing when you are new without FW. Which means you get stuck doing PvE content....which eventually leads to level 4 missions....

...which means you quit eve out of sheer boredom, and we don't want you to quit Eve.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Awesome Alliance
#23 - 2014-11-07 05:50:31 UTC
Moglarr wrote:
I'd like to go totally against what everyone is saying here and suggest joining Templis CALSF. We're pretty awesome.




While Templis is cool and stuff and have lots of good people.....


There is only one corp that is Awesome.



Big smileBig smileBig smile



Domino Vyse
FeedingMachine
War and Wormhole
#24 - 2014-11-07 17:40:57 UTC
Phaade wrote:
Domino Vyse wrote:
Be a pirate and kill everyone.

If you join FW you will quickly learn that it is full of autistic , self absorbed neckbeards. Calmil less so than Galmil, but the same applies.




More or less, but it's difficult (impossible) to make money PvPing when you are new without FW. Which means you get stuck doing PvE content....which eventually leads to level 4 missions....

...which means you quit eve out of sheer boredom, and we don't want you to quit Eve.


Yeah, dont do PVE.

You could always join FW and shoot purples too while farming LP.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Awesome Alliance
#25 - 2014-11-08 02:03:52 UTC
Domino Vyse wrote:


Yeah, dont do PVE.

You could always join FW and shoot purples too while farming LP.





Don't listen to this dude.

He either:

1, Has no understanding of Faction standings
2. Is purposefully setting you up for a bad time
3. Is just so bad at eve that he thinks shooting someone who sees you as friendly and doesnt know they will be shot at is 'leet pvp'.
4. Both 1 & 3


Domino Vyse
FeedingMachine
War and Wormhole
#26 - 2014-11-08 08:04:28 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Domino Vyse wrote:


Yeah, dont do PVE.

You could always join FW and shoot purples too while farming LP.





Don't listen to this dude.

He either:

1, Has no understanding of Faction standings
2. Is purposefully setting you up for a bad time
3. Is just so bad at eve that he thinks shooting someone who sees you as friendly and doesnt know they will be shot at is 'leet pvp'.
4. Both 1 & 3





Or...


Or...


5. Realises this is a game, and plays it as such.
Nunswithguns
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-11-09 22:34:55 UTC
Moglarr wrote:
I'd like to go totally against what everyone is saying here and suggest joining Templis CALSF. We're pretty awesome.


^ agreed.

I was a WH carebear (C4 anoms/mining/gas) for a while, nul/low/high explorer, and hisec mission runner. I joined Templis and the game has never been this fun before.

One thing about joining the underdog, always a fight available.

Just fly cheap, LEARN, and have fun. Hope to see you soon.
Tiberius Mathusia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-11-12 21:47:17 UTC
I've only just dived into FW after getting bored with PvE and I'm having a blast. The GalMil seem a friendly bunch and I've already managed to get two kills though both were pirates but a kills a killl. Lost a few ships but the lessons I learned led to the two kills today.

Go for it. You've nothing to lose and personally I've learned quite a bit about PvP and fittings in a very short time from doing solo FW. I've been flying the below Tristan fit. It's all tech 1 stuff so cheap to fit but seems to work well. Killed a navy slicer with tech 2 and a tormentor with mix of t2 and faction.


High

Light Electron Blaster I x2
Nos I

Mid

MWB I
Scramber I
Small cap boost I

Low

Small Anc Repair
Damage control I
Drone Damage Amplfier I

Rigs: Anti-exp pump I, small aux nano pump I, small anc current router I

8x Hob I
Feffri
Did he say Jump
WE FORM BL0B
#29 - 2014-11-19 04:26:44 UTC
Soren Moller wrote:
I'm looking for advice on how to know whether I should try to jump into FW, carebear for a bit until I have more skills, perhaps start looking into null, etc.. Basically, what are good questions to ask myself what I should try out? I'd like to develop skills in blowing other people up. And perhaps learning to explode with style when I blow up.

Also, if I were to join FW it would be on the CalMil side. Not sure if there are any large CalMil corporations that are friendly to unskilled, low SP people or not.



Just don't join cal mil always has and always will be worst fw.. you will be perma in tier 1 and overmatched in every fight. gallente have a lot of good pvp pilots and would be good amarr and minnies both have strong corps and the warzone is more balanced with a lot of back and forth.

gl
Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
#30 - 2014-11-20 04:36:18 UTC
Soren Moller wrote:
I'm looking for advice on how to know whether I should try to jump into FW, carebear for a bit until I have more skills, perhaps start looking into null, etc.. Basically, what are good questions to ask myself what I should try out? I'd like to develop skills in blowing other people up. And perhaps learning to explode with style when I blow up.

Also, if I were to join FW it would be on the CalMil side. Not sure if there are any large CalMil corporations that are friendly to unskilled, low SP people or not.


Join FW? Yes! Do it! You won't regret it! Militia life best life, unless you join CalMil.

My Velator is overpowered.

"I use my hairgel to tackle my targets because it has a long lasting firm hold." - Me.

Veronica Isagar
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#31 - 2014-11-21 15:46:33 UTC
Dude, do what you want, FW pays you LP for every war target killed, Pirate you just get kills but no LP pay out, you mostly get isk for the drops/loot, NOT everyone in FW are autistic, maybe a few suffer the "special snow flake syndrome". Every Corp/alliance has there pluses and Minuses, other than being super board in HI-sec there's not much content, Low sec, you can undock and be in a fight. Pick your poison.
Nothing Ventured, nothing Gained.
Ke11y Divine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-11-28 02:39:59 UTC
The corp you join will make a big difference in your game enjoyment.

When looking at a PvP corp, make sure their killboard looks good to you. See that they are getting kills when you play. Note how many kills per day, and how frequently they fight.

You do not need to be great in skills before you try to PvP, but you are going to die a lot due to being new and also low fitting skills. This doesn’t mean you can’t learn some things, but the going will be tough. But if you work on tackle skills many gangs will fund your ships if you tackle for them.

Once you can fly a good fit with good skills you are over one important hill. As you go on you will skill into additional good fits.

Along the way you may become good at creating your own good fittings. And then you will continue to get even better.

Another important hill is learning how to earn isk in volumes that support your shopping habits. Your tastes will get more expensive, but you will also learn how to get a lot of fun out of cheap setups as you get better.

There are a variety of ways to go about getting started. To be fair though I think right out the door you need to make some isk.

When I got started I created a 2nd account to make money with while not interrupting the PvP skilling on my main. Years later I still think that was a good idea.

If you have the spending money you can consider buying plex and then purchasing a skilled character. Just beware flying expensive ships while just learning PvP. You will burn through a lot of isk pretty quick that way.

Once you have this much behind you, there will be several options before you.
Theroine
Pew Pew Pirates
#33 - 2014-12-01 03:34:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Theroine
IbanezLaney wrote:
Join who ever suits your timezone.

For AU Tz my corp is best.

For EU try Inglorious-Basterds [I.BS.]

For US tz - you have many options.


This list is the top 8 CalMil Alliances from zkill for the last week.

Enemy Spotted.
OLD MAN GANG
Templis CALSF
Heiian Conglomerate
Caldari State Capturing
The Bloc
Caldari Armed Forces.
Dei-Telum

Church of Awesome will treat you well. Enjoyed my short time in corp (alt). Join FW, join corp public channels and chat with members, and most of all get on coms and fly with people. You'll quickly find out who you can stand and who you can't. As far as sec status and standing goes, you can always repair that stuff with isk or carebearing if you decide to leave FW.
Beardon
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#34 - 2014-12-01 18:06:50 UTC
Soren Moller wrote:
I'll just get some skills up and see what I want to do. From the look of it, CalMil has been losing forever now. Maybe I wouldn't want to join that side anyway.


One way to look at it: if you're in the worst militia, then you got the best enemies, right? If we're so bad (which we are), then who in their right mind would actually want to fight us? Besides, T1 ain't so bad, the prices of navy stuff goes through the roof when no one has any actual LP; in T3 and T4 everyone is so ballin that they crash the market...

Just holla at us (Templis)... One of us... One of us... One of us!
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Spaceship Bebop
#35 - 2014-12-01 18:35:25 UTC
My alt loves it in Templis. You should join them.
Grimwood
Proioxis Assault Force
Rogue Caldari Union
#36 - 2014-12-01 20:09:37 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
My alt loves it in Templis. You should join them.


If in fact you have an alt in Templis, get involved with us and get to know us. We aren't the big piles of feces that some would make us out to be.
Veronica Isagar
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#37 - 2014-12-02 07:24:20 UTC
Grimwood wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
My alt loves it in Templis. You should join them.


If in fact you have an alt in Templis, get involved with us and get to know us. We aren't the big piles of ***** that some would make us out to be.


We are all here to have fun, have a good time, we all are good people for the most part, some more special snowflake than others.
Carlatto
False Profits
#38 - 2014-12-02 19:03:16 UTC
One thing to understand is fw is setup for you to join as soon as you're done with the tutorial missions. You do not need a lot of skill points to be a helping hand in a fleet. I would highly recommend flying cheap t1 fit frigs. Very little skill to fit them. You will lose a lot but while doing so you're gaining experience and skill points for a better fitting. Always think of your ship as ammo. It's gonna pop and you're just gonna hop in a new one to do it all over again. Fw is a blast if you fly with the right people. Loot whatever you can when in a fleet to pay for new ships. Each frig should only cost a couple mil. As you get better and train your skills higher you can fly better ships.

Also get with a corp that's willing to help you get better. Advice on what to train and when to train it. How to fit ships. Most corps will have doctrines that take the guessing work out of it for you. Hope this helps.
Carlatto
False Profits
#39 - 2014-12-02 19:16:47 UTC
I almost forgot. What I've found very helpful was to record my fights. Fraps is a good program. When you're done you can go back and watch. Find out what you did right or wrong.
GavinGoodrich
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-12-02 20:08:36 UTC
Loving the awesome newbro support here.

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire

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