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More ruthlessness, less madness?

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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-11-04 11:30:24 UTC
I agree with OP, goal driven PvP is a good thing and I think EVE needs a lot more of it.
The biggest issue in EVE imo is the lack of things to do in space. Most fights happens on gates when it should be somewhere inside the systems but what do you have to fight for there?
FW plexes
POCOs
POSes
SOV structures
PvEer ganking

And thats pretty much it, what we need are more reasons to fly around and do things inside systems, away from gates.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2014-11-04 11:35:57 UTC
It almost makes space seem small and limited, doesn't it?
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#43 - 2014-11-04 13:07:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ruskarn Andedare
Mooh Bear wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Mooh Bear wrote:
but I think it would cool for the EVE villains to be more Pr. Moriarty and less the Joker.

But I adore Mr. J.


What! A CODEy worshipping the Joker? I can't believe it! /s

Joke aside, I think I have been looking at the problem the wrong way. In EVE, the only point of blowing spaceship is the one you want to make. Still, I wish we could fight over more things.

Imagine turf wars for mission agents or belts in high-sec...


You say that like there aren't wars over belts in high sec

And a lot of missioners get ganked regularly enough to drive them from the system they were using
The Tomonator
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-11-04 14:00:30 UTC
Cynadore wrote:
Mooh Bear wrote:
PVP is, at best, a poor isk maker or, at worst, a money sink


Not a single ISK is removed from the economy through the loss of a ship. PvP is a material sink. It's actually an ISK faucet, through insurance payouts. The money you pay for your ship and modules changes from your wallet to the manufacturers' wallets. It does not disappear. I realize it might look like a "money sink" if you look at your wallet only, but this is not the case.


methinks the op was meaning sink for the user ... ie, you spend more than you get out. Not relating to the entire eve economy, or mirroring the RL fact that energy can't be destroyed (just transferred etc).
Mooh Bear
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#45 - 2014-11-04 15:56:28 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Mooh Bear wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Mooh Bear wrote:
but I think it would cool for the EVE villains to be more Pr. Moriarty and less the Joker.

But I adore Mr. J.


What! A CODEy worshipping the Joker? I can't believe it! /s

Joke aside, I think I have been looking at the problem the wrong way. In EVE, the only point of blowing spaceship is the one you want to make. Still, I wish we could fight over more things.

Imagine turf wars for mission agents or belts in high-sec...


You say that like there aren't wars over belts in high sec

And a lot of missioners get ganked regularly enough to drive them from the system they were using


There aren't any war over belts in places I play. Plenty of ore and ice there Shocked
inta Vakaria
BoomTime
House of Boom
#46 - 2014-11-05 10:22:47 UTC
While I do engage in random pvp for me it's not about the mindless destruction it's more about pitting my mind against someone else's.
Trying to work out a better ship and fit then your potential opponent.
Finding someone who you believe would make a excellent target.
Hunting said target down and try to catch him in a position that works to your advantage.
Picking the perfect moment to strike .
Useing my modules, range and ship to its fullest potential and finally getting my target.
I find all of these things much more entertaining then the feeling that I've destroyed something.
Though the explosion at the end is nice. Twisted
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#47 - 2014-11-05 12:49:14 UTC
DGSix Kado wrote:
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of Eve



This is getting stolen for Da Sig....:)

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#48 - 2014-11-05 13:10:04 UTC
One time I got caught in the gravitational field of the sun in JB-007, after 5 days of intense orbiting the sun had burned all its fuel and went supernova.

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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#49 - 2014-11-05 13:42:40 UTC
Mooh Bear wrote:
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Mooh Bear wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Mooh Bear wrote:
but I think it would cool for the EVE villains to be more Pr. Moriarty and less the Joker.

But I adore Mr. J.


What! A CODEy worshipping the Joker? I can't believe it! /s

Joke aside, I think I have been looking at the problem the wrong way. In EVE, the only point of blowing spaceship is the one you want to make. Still, I wish we could fight over more things.

Imagine turf wars for mission agents or belts in high-sec...


You say that like there aren't wars over belts in high sec

And a lot of missioners get ganked regularly enough to drive them from the system they were using


There aren't any war over belts in places I play. Plenty of ore and ice there Shocked

Lucky for the guys near you - I've seen a fair few. Mainly started by groups who want to be able to mine in later TZs
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#50 - 2014-11-05 14:02:39 UTC
Chribba wrote:
One time I got caught in the gravitational field of the sun in JB-007, after 5 days of intense orbiting the sun had burned all its fuel and went supernova.
So that blinding light was your doing...Blink

That said, I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.

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Mooh Bear
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#51 - 2014-11-06 00:04:44 UTC
inta Vakaria wrote:
While I do engage in random pvp for me it's not about the mindless destruction it's more about pitting my mind against someone else's.
Trying to work out a better ship and fit then your potential opponent.
Finding someone who you believe would make a excellent target.
Hunting said target down and try to catch him in a position that works to your advantage.
Picking the perfect moment to strike .
Useing my modules, range and ship to its fullest potential and finally getting my target.
I find all of these things much more entertaining then the feeling that I've destroyed something.
Though the explosion at the end is nice. Twisted


It's all fine to want challenge. But the line between challenging and suicidal is very thin (and very wobbly) in EVE. Plus, many of the activities I cited do not really present much challenge actually.
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