EVE General Discussion

Code weighed in, I weighed back, you guys are incapable of letting criticism lie and I'm more than happy to continue to point out the flaws in your claims and strategies. Besides, I'm also discussing the topic at hand.

Because if someone criticizes or dsagrees with you, they have to be on par with veers or dinsdale.

No, you're not. Shut the **** up Lucas. At least Dinsdale is funny. #unleashthebeast #freedinsdale

If Code is supporting botters either accidentally or deliberately, we could argue you are too. You're part of a scrub empire that funds its SRP from renters. Don't even try to pretend some of those renter corps aren't overflowing with bots, or that anyone is unaware of it. That dirty bot ISK flows through pretty much every nullsec alliance wallet to every blobmoney in null with an SRP policy, making everyone involved participants. You're a filthy botlord Lucas, and everyone knows it.

If you're an example of "decent" people, then Eve is doomed.

To be honest, until Kaarous logs back on with his threats to quit and various other amusingly angry posts, I prefer the CODE meltdown over the awoxing drama.

Mr Epeen

That's not what I meant and you know it. I was referring to your constant borderline trolling, your insistence that you are an expert on various facets of the game despite all the evidence to the contrary, your uninformed opinions on how game mechanics should be changed and above all your self-righteousness.

TL;DR IMHO you're an ignorant, arrogant clown with an inflated opinion of himself.

I have no special love for awoxing - although it has produced some memorable player-driven stories - but it is an interesting mechanic which provides risk in all-too-safe highsec. Sandbox means we the players have the tools to create content and experiences beyond those scripted by CCP. Removing such a tool, for a purpose that everyone here seems to acknowledge is unlikely to result in many more players sticking around is wrong. CCP should be adding more tools like awoxing to allow us to build and destroy things in new and interesting ways.

But my primary objection is that at its heart, Sandbox means the actions of all of us - the players - influence each other. As Mike Azariah just seems to be realizing, that means practically everything we do, from mining to mission running to market trading to direct combat is PvP. My ore devalues your ore. My ISK devalues your ISK. Therefore, this additional reduction of risk in highsec is creating even further imbalance in the risk vs. reward, making other security spaces other than highsec even less competitive place to live.

Year after year highsec gets safer and safer, and we are now at the point where it is impossible to die unless you do something incredibly stupid. The economy is showing the stress of this problem, and the player-base is moving back , or never leaving highsec because it is too lucrative for the miniscule level of risk left. Anything that further reduces the risk in highsec is detrimental for the game.

More practically though, this nerf - no not nerf - complete removal of a time-honoured mechanic will not help new players. No new player stayed out of a corp because of awoxing (maybe because of wardecs but those are still there), so really this change only benefits highsec corps by reducing their risk. Why do highsec corps need yet another reduction in risk?

Eve is about conflict. Eve is not about creating a space utopia where no-one ever dies.

We should not remove game mechanics that drive conflict.

Its not being removed. You will just have to deal with concord now.

Its your choice to remove the activity from your play list.

CSM dude when is highsec reward going to be nerfed?

As you've been repeatedly told, that turns it into a suicide gank, so for all intents and purposes awoxing is being removed.

Offtopic ~ Would you care to purchase a bridge to live under? I'll even throw in a couple of goats to make sure you feel at home.