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[Video Guide] C5 Solo Thanatos aka The 1O Thanny
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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-10-29 21:01:12 UTC
King Fu Hostile wrote:
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
King Fu Hostile wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
only issue is that unlike with a marauder, you cant fit a mjd and bail out from under points if you get hostiles in system.
as an aside, arent guardians meant to go after fighters something fiercek? they certainly use to.

Implying people use long points in wormhole tackling?

If by "people" you mean sleepers, then yes I think that's what he means. The sleepers point you, but you can MJD away from their point range and warp out, amirite?

Right, that is true. If you are not in bastion when suddenly hostiles.

if youre not awful at scouting you can get out easily enough. ive done it a couple times now.

There is no Bob.

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Incindir Mauser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-10-29 22:07:21 UTC


Anyone else think that this is just a clever ploy to inspire more Thanatos ganks?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#23 - 2014-10-29 22:36:47 UTC
Incindir Mauser wrote:


Anyone else think that this is just a clever ploy to inspire more Thanatos ganks?



If it was anyone other than Keith maybe. Won't lie I'm a fan of the mini-me archon style paladin.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-10-29 22:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
FYI you get more tank with 2x invuln than 2x boost amp
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.

There is no Bob.

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#25 - 2014-10-30 00:03:30 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:

The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.


Have mixed feelings on that - I had a go in a pulsar (with a 4K tank) and even then first bit can get a bit hairy til your thinning out guardians, with the introducing of depots though plenty of ways to refit on the fly - I'd be whacking a couple of omnis in the mids as much as possible personally.
Zmikund
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-10-30 00:49:48 UTC
Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ...
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#27 - 2014-10-30 01:13:39 UTC
Zmikund wrote:
Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ...


Random triggers will be a pain on quarantine and cause all kinds of problems with drones/fighters taking damage.
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-10-30 01:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
Jack Miton wrote:
FYI you get more tank with 2x invuln than 2x boost amp
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.


the 2% increase in tank isn't really worth the extra 200mil

the 6 sleeper guardians do 4146 dps, the first waves of the sites have another 700-800. This means you have 4850 incoming dps. On top of that you've got 216 GJs of neuts hitting you.

You could very well take off one of the boost amps and throw on a cap recharger, but thats the great thing about mobile depots, you don't have to choose just 1 fit \o/

♞
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-10-30 01:38:54 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Zmikund wrote:
Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ...


Random triggers will be a pain on quarantine and cause all kinds of problems with drones/fighters taking damage.


^ This, also strongholds and garrisons are so much more common you don't really ever need to run quarantines

♞
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-10-30 02:02:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Keith Planck wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
FYI you get more tank with 2x invuln than 2x boost amp
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.

the 2% increase in tank isn't really worth the extra 200mil

the 6 sleeper guardians do 4146 dps, the first waves of the sites have another 700-800. This means you have 4850 incoming dps. On top of that you've got 216 GJs of neuts hitting you.

You could very well take off one of the boost amps and throw on a cap recharger, but thats the great thing about mobile depots, you don't have to choose just 1 fit \o/

i realize you go purely off DB numbers and dont actually figure things out yourself when running sites but the actual DPS is not that high.
you can easily permatank the first wave in a standard fit triage archon (out of triage) which has 3400 odd tank.
you can even tank the first 2 waves when escalating for the 5min or so it takes them to swap off you, I have done this many times.
you should be killing BSs before it becomes a problem.

honestly I dont think solo escalating in a carrier is ever worth it, regardless of your fit.

PS: the reason your cap sucks is that you use flux coils.... ive told you this before.

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Ion Udan
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2014-10-30 02:03:59 UTC
I'm ashamed to say I actually enjoyed the "boppy" music :(

So, glorious QEX brother steals potatoes from hisec.
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#32 - 2014-10-30 04:10:04 UTC
What a terrible method, as usual.

Have to use two characters, have to come back to salvage (or ignore it), and going to end up with you dead eventually since you don't even need to be ganked, somebody just has to warp in a second cap and you're GONZO (I've done this, it's H I L A R I O U S)

Go do missions in venal or FW and you'll make the same money for 100% less risk and effort. If you want to be in wormholes, at least make the effort to buy 3 characters and do sites properly.
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-10-30 06:03:59 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
FYI you get more tank with 2x invuln than 2x boost amp
The fit also seems super overtanked. You only need like, 3.3k tank.

the 2% increase in tank isn't really worth the extra 200mil

the 6 sleeper guardians do 4146 dps, the first waves of the sites have another 700-800. This means you have 4850 incoming dps. On top of that you've got 216 GJs of neuts hitting you.

You could very well take off one of the boost amps and throw on a cap recharger, but thats the great thing about mobile depots, you don't have to choose just 1 fit \o/

i realize you go purely off DB numbers and dont actually figure things out yourself when running sites but the actual DPS is not that high.
you can easily permatank the first wave in a standard fit triage archon (out of triage) which has 3400 odd tank.
you can even tank the first 2 waves when escalating for the 5min or so it takes them to swap off you, I have done this many times.
you should be killing BSs before it becomes a problem.

honestly I dont think solo escalating in a carrier is ever worth it, regardless of your fit.

PS: the reason your cap sucks is that you use flux coils.... ive told you this before.

link your fit man, i'll try it out on sisi and make a "jack is way better then me" video

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A Null Princess
Python Technologies
#34 - 2014-10-30 06:12:50 UTC
Angsty Teenager wrote:

Go do missions in venal


gibes corp pls, tired of those carebears trying to kill me but failing.
Zmikund
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-10-30 08:49:22 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Zmikund wrote:
Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ...


Random triggers will be a pain on quarantine and cause all kinds of problems with drones/fighters taking damage.


tbh im flying solo quarantines pretty much since bastion came out and i dont remember single time when there was trigger anything else than second battleship in first reinforcement ...
Winthorp
#36 - 2014-10-30 09:42:48 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Winthorp the Great wrote:
sigh...


WTF, who is this that made the stalker alt? I want to say Jester?


No I can't be ****** to take the effort.
.


http://i.imgur.com/RYUgcfy.png

I do hope they received a ban for impersonation...
RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#37 - 2014-10-30 11:24:54 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Andrew Jester wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
Winthorp the Great wrote:
sigh...


WTF, who is this that made the stalker alt? I want to say Jester?


No I can't be ****** to take the effort.
.


http://i.imgur.com/RYUgcfy.png

I do hope they received a ban for impersonation...

yes and death penalty for not calling u "the Greatest" l!!11
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-10-30 17:45:25 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
link your fit man, i'll try it out on sisi and make a "jack is way better then me" video


Jack does not need video proof of his awesomeness.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#39 - 2014-10-30 18:34:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Zmikund wrote:
Rroff wrote:
Zmikund wrote:
Why only strongholds or garrisons? i understand that 3-4 more neuting BS from oruze could be problem, but why cant it solo quarantine? there is maximally 2 BS in spawn so it shouldnt be such a deal ...


Random triggers will be a pain on quarantine and cause all kinds of problems with drones/fighters taking damage.


tbh im flying solo quarantines pretty much since bastion came out and i dont remember single time when there was trigger anything else than second battleship in first reinforcement ...


Last time I ran one was just before that so maybe they've changed it since, the last 2 times IIRC the trigger on the first wave was one of the turrets. (I ditched my Kronos after that :| - triage + pair of them (or paladins) was a fun way to do that site).
Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#40 - 2014-10-31 04:28:50 UTC
Posting in a thread full of angry people


lol @ Winthorp making an alt to boost his own ego
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