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Prolapse. shows you how it's done C4 W-R Enyos

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#1 - 2014-10-29 03:26:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Trinkets friend
For anyone who doubts it, here is the video proof.

Please note that I am a terrible scrub at YouTube and haven't edited comms. I also have no idea how to mix dubstep atop of everything so it feels like it's actually exciting.

in a previous site, we had our stuff together a bit more and were alphaíng cruisers.

Also note than this is 11m 30s to do the site. Consider the fact that people didn't think my theorycrafting EFT-fu would stand up and brough AB Vengeance, AB Enyo, etc, and couldn't apply DPS as quick as I did with my Enyo. This slowed us down.

Secondly, proper MWD Guardians and proper positioning of said Guardians to allow the Enyo's to burn full speed between spawns - this would also increase the tempo and increase the yield. I reckon you could get it down to 8 minutes. That's pretty good for 90M ISK per site.

We could possibly do this with dual-prop Augorors. We will test it out, and let you know, or link lossmails.

The take-home?

You do NOT need a gigantic blob of high-skill DPS boats, T3's, blah blah blah, in order to do C4 sites (at least, in W-R, magnetars or Cataclysmics). Two logi toons, and 6 Enyos and you're on your way.

(anyone interested in hashtag YOLO?)
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#2 - 2014-10-29 09:38:07 UTC
I think this would be interesting to test out with some fw people. Maybe in C2 or C3 to start with. Iirc wolf rayets give extra small weapon damage so lml cruisers would probably work well too.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-10-29 09:55:37 UTC
if you have 2 guardians you can run c4s in t1 fit cruisers. people are just sissies.
nice job.

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#4 - 2014-10-29 10:04:31 UTC
Not impressed unless I see you doing that with inquisitors.

Two of those are sufficient by far to keep enyos alive in a c3 anom, two should still do it in a c4.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#5 - 2014-10-29 13:25:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Trinkets friend
It is easy to diss guardians, but our Enyo fit has no plate. You kind of do need the instant full health of a large RR. You'll not in the video that one of our Enyos gets to 20% armour from one shot.

Inquisitors? Everyone dies due to neuts.

We are considering RR AF's should do it well, but again, neuts can screw you over badly. You need the nos in your utility highs to leech cap.

Augorors should be doable. We use a dualprop fit which is cap stable by itself. The real question is whether 6 medium reps (3 on a cruiser) are enough. We will test it out.

Also, FYI, you can do a C3 site with 2 Enyos and 1 Execquror. I'll video and upload that if we ever bother doing it again.
Paul Vashar
CTHS
#6 - 2014-10-29 17:15:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Vashar
Trinkets friend wrote:
You'll not in the video that one of our Enyos gets to 20% armour from one shot.

I'd also like to note that you all burned DIRECTLY AT THEM
Use that AF sig. Even a 10-15 degree angle would render their turret (heaviest hitter) useless against you.
Edit: wtf is a 10% angle?
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2014-10-29 18:57:18 UTC
Enyos are awesome

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#8 - 2014-10-29 22:54:48 UTC
Paul Vashar wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
You'll not in the video that one of our Enyos gets to 20% armour from one shot.

I'd also like to note that you all burned DIRECTLY AT THEM
Use that AF sig. Even a 10-15 degree angle would render their turret (heaviest hitter) useless against you.
Edit: wtf is a 10% angle?


I TOLD YOU WE WAS NUBS
Bjurn Akely
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-10-30 00:45:47 UTC
This. Great proof of concept. Great concept to use cheaper stuff. Great concept to try out 'other' stuff for the hell of it. I'm duly impressed!
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-10-30 00:52:35 UTC
Points for looking like more fun than normal site running.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#11 - 2014-10-30 21:01:28 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Points for looking like more fun than normal site running.


QFT

Now for the NPE to include doing activities like this on an 'easier' difficulty level and you never know, people might try more things/stick around

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Paul Vashar
CTHS
#12 - 2014-10-30 22:39:46 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Paul Vashar wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
You'll not in the video that one of our Enyos gets to 20% armour from one shot.

I'd also like to note that you all burned DIRECTLY AT THEM
Use that AF sig. Even a 10-15 degree angle would render their turret (heaviest hitter) useless against you.
Edit: wtf is a 10% angle?


I TOLD YOU WE WAS NUBS

We all are. That's why we hide from local chat.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#13 - 2014-10-31 00:38:44 UTC
I've got a video of us running a W-R C3 Oruze in 4 AF's and single Execquror. I even found some free industrial music to put over the top.

Will update this poast when it is done.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#14 - 2014-10-31 01:22:55 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
I've got a video of us running a W-R C3 Oruze in 4 AF's and single Execquror. I even found some free industrial music to put over the top.

Will update this poast when it is done.


Single Exeq in a WR isnt exactly too tough if your pilot is decent.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#15 - 2014-10-31 01:57:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Trinkets friend
Icarus Able wrote:


Single Exeq in a WR isnt exactly too tough if your pilot is decent.


True. You can also do it in a non-effect C3, but it does get a bit hairy on the double BS in the Outpost Frontier Stronghold.

Video is here.

(note: Elyas Crux is the Exec pilot in this video, if you are wondering how the Exec tanks).
Zavand Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-10-31 17:47:43 UTC
Im a bit interested in what fits you use as you say you dont have a plate
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#17 - 2014-10-31 23:17:52 UTC
[Enyo, Sig Tank]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating
Centii C-Type Explosive Plating

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I

Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I

The exec you can find on our killboard losses, and the Augoror the same.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#18 - 2014-11-02 21:43:12 UTC
The good fellows at Lazerhawks have shown me evidence that AF's and Augorors can complete C5 W-R, so I shall bow down to their superior chutzpah and space-bear capabilities in this regard, and maybe they'll show you a video dubbed over by Cuban jazz to illustrate it.
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#19 - 2014-11-04 10:14:39 UTC
Assault frigs have a pretty low skill requirement to use effectively, even lower then oracles. Their a lot more fun to fly. And you can do up to c5 sites.

It's perfect for newbro corps.
RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#20 - 2014-11-04 10:30:23 UTC
DONT LISTEN HIM, I KNOW HIS PLAN!!! AND FRIGS WONT B HAPPY WITH HIS EVIL SANTO...
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