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Cosmic Scanner
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#21 - 2014-10-29 18:27:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Cosmic Scanner
Jack Miton wrote:
cmon aharm....
youre siggy paranoia was old 2 years ago and it's really just pathetic at this stage.
If you look at my corp history you will notice that i have only been in Aharm about 1 month. Previously to this i was in Temnava Legion for over 2 years, and i was until recently actually very pro-siggy in noho. You seem... very vocal about aharm Blink I somewhat feel like i am not the one whining here lol.

Don't get me wrong, Siggy is an awesome tool, of which the owner should be proud of coding, and i really really genuinely hope that mine and noho's suspicions are wrong. I also am not intending to personally attack the owner.

I am not saying that what i presented is 100% conclusive proof, but then neither can Jack Tronic 100% proof to you or me that he did not do what noho suspected him of doing so. It is very open to interpretation, I just felt that i needed to make my experiences and concerns public. What you choose to do and think is down to you. And i think i can speak for both myself and noho to say that this will be the last forum topic you ever see us make about this.

One thing i do not understand is why the password auth is present in game, but not present out of game?

Perhaps it was a coincidence, but i had never until recently saw Azbogah on the active sessions out of game until the time just before the invasion. Put yourself in our position, you know people are seeding capitals into your system, during this time, you just so happen to see the siggy owner doing what appears to be looking at your chain at a very critical time. Wouldn't it make you a little paranoid? Just sayin.

Anyway cheers for the reply's gents o7

Cosmic Scanner / muu lufragga
TheBlueFox
Perpetua Umbra
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
#22 - 2014-10-29 23:03:14 UTC
We quite value our transparency and I think the fact that we do not hide our presence when performing administrative functions or resolving issues speaks volumes. You may wish to consider the fact that we also have unrestricted access to all the data for everyone as it is in the end stored on our servers. Should we choose, we can go through it all at our leisure without anyone but us being aware of the fact. This is not something that is exclusive to our service either and is just inherent to trusting a third party with some data. Yet as it's clear, we elect not to go down that path. Why would we wish to discredit ourselves in such a manner when we can prune the SQL data at ease for example?

In the end, the only thing we hope to gain from you and your alliance is some ISK. After all, this is a paid service and we rely on that to keep things running and continue development. We maintain standards and do not go through client data unless we have been given access by them or are resolving issues as you just saw. When it comes to our product, we keep a completely neutral stance as such a role is key to maintaining the customer base that we have. Even HK, the entity with which we are most active, does not receive a discount on siggy and pays in full to maintain service.

As for the password authentication thing, seeing as I'm not the developer (my responsibilities primarily lie in the hardware side of things), I unfortunately cannot answer that question for you.
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#23 - 2014-10-30 03:56:04 UTC
Quote:

you just so happen to see the siggy owner doing what appears to be looking at your chain at a very critical time. .


You can ask Peter Moonlight why I was looking :P Or in this case testing.


Quote:
One thing i do not understand is why the password auth is present in game, but not present out of game?


Because siggy's codebase after 3 years makes me cry. This has now been fixed, with awful code purged and deploying shortly.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-10-30 06:02:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Cosmic Scanner wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
cmon aharm....
youre siggy paranoia was old 2 years ago and it's really just pathetic at this stage.
If you look at my corp history you will notice that i have only been in Aharm about 1 month. Previously to this i was in Temnava Legion for over 2 years, and i was until recently actually very pro-siggy in noho. You seem... very vocal about aharm Blink I somewhat feel like i am not the one whining here lol.

no I didnt check your history but I realize you're new to aharm.
might just be coincidence that the same complaint comes out of AHARM every few months, who knows. either way, aharm members complaining about siggy on the forums is a tried and true WH tradition.

as for my personal relationship to aharm? im a big fan.
they were fun to shoot 4 years ago, fun to get shot by 3 years ago, was a great corp to be part of when I was there and I'm sure it still is now.
calling me anti-aharm is... loose to say the least mate.

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mechform
#25 - 2014-10-30 11:39:18 UTC
Eve has taught us that people can and will do anything for whatever reason they choose to at whatever time.

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Cosmic Scanner
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#26 - 2014-10-30 17:00:22 UTC
The day / timing of when you accessed our chain pretty much matches up with when peter moonlight reported problems. I am happy to admit that it looks like i am / we were probably wrong. I didn't look close enough to see the timings were similar, my bad.

I will update the original post accordingly, and feel free to bury this topic.

Keep up the good work o7

Cosmic Scanner / muu lufragga
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