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Rofl Megathron

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Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2011-11-26 19:37:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tara Read
So after fiddling with eft and flying around on sisi for a little I jotted down my future concoction of lol mobile fits for the megathron. IF these changes go live you better bet i'll be flying this.

Highs x7 neutron blaster t2 with void

Mediums named mwd scram web and LARGE cap injector now due to fitting tweaks.

Lows x4 rolled tungsten plates. X2 eanm a dcu.

Rigs are large trimarks drones ogre t2.

Now I know what your thinking. Wtf? Where are the mag stabs? And isn't that quad plated fit horrible with agility? Not with thee new changes. Here are the hard numbers.

168k ehp. 976 dps. And with a mwd 822 m/s. That's right with 4 plates you still scoot. Dps is solid, tank looks like a navy mega on paper just about and you still fit a heavy cap injector. All for 168 mil with rigs.

I did a paper numbers crunch of this vs a 1406 dps Gank mega with 110k ehp. The quad plate beats it barely. This mega plus guardians equals something quite awesome. Welcome your input / trolls/ screams.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-11-26 19:55:18 UTC
Tara Read wrote:
So after fiddling with eft and flying around on sisi for a little I jotted down my future concoction of lol mobile fits for the megathron. IF these changes go live you better bet i'll be flying this.

Highs x7 neutron blaster t2 with void

Mediums named mwd scram web and LARGE cap injector now due to fitting tweaks.

Lows x4 rolled tungsten plates. X2 eanm a dcu.

Rigs are large trimarks drones ogre t2.

Now I know what your thinking. Wtf? Where are the mag stabs? And isn't that quad plated fit horrible with agility? Not with thee new changes. Here are the hard numbers.

168k ehp. 976 dps. And with a mwd 822 m/s. That's right with 4 plates you still scoot. Dps is solid, tank looks like a navy mega on paper just about and you still fit a heavy cap injector. All for 168 mil with rigs.

I did a paper numbers crunch of this vs a 1406 dps Gank mega with 110k ehp. The quad plate beats it barely. This mega plus guardians equals something quite awesome. Welcome your input / trolls/ screams.



With logis 1 plate 1mfs (or 2) 2 te's (or 1 if 2 mfs), why would you loose dps/range/Speed if you have logistics?

Logistics = even MOAR gank AND less tank !
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#3 - 2011-11-26 20:08:24 UTC
[scream]USE THE GODDAMN EXPORT TO CLIPBOARD & COPYPASTA MAGIC WHEN POASTING FITS, LUKE![/scream]

I like it. I'm training Large Hybrid Turrets V.

.

Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2011-11-26 21:09:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tara Read
Tanya Powers wrote:
Tara Read wrote:
So after fiddling with eft and flying around on sisi for a little I jotted down my future concoction of lol mobile fits for the megathron. IF these changes go live you better bet i'll be flying this.

Highs x7 neutron blaster t2 with void

Mediums named mwd scram web and LARGE cap injector now due to fitting tweaks.

Lows x4 rolled tungsten plates. X2 eanm a dcu.

Rigs are large trimarks drones ogre t2.

Now I know what your thinking. Wtf? Where are the mag stabs? And isn't that quad plated fit horrible with agility? Not with thee new changes. Here are the hard numbers.

168k ehp. 976 dps. And with a mwd 822 m/s. That's right with 4 plates you still scoot. Dps is solid, tank looks like a navy mega on paper just about and you still fit a heavy cap injector. All for 168 mil with rigs.

I did a paper numbers crunch of this vs a 1406 dps Gank mega with 110k ehp. The quad plate beats it barely. This mega plus guardians equals something quite awesome. Welcome your input / trolls/ screams.



With logis 1 plate 1mfs (or 2) 2 te's (or 1 if 2 mfs), why would you loose dps/range/Speed if you have logistics?

Logistics = even MOAR gank AND less tank !

Because you may not always have a logi pilot or you may be primaried cause your simply well in a mega. Gaining 100 to 150 dps hardly outperforms having another 50k ehp. With the extra armor you stay in the fight longer to keep applying dps. As far as the speed issue with three plates on tq you do 768 m/s and roughly 860 to 900 now with 2 plates. Hardly counters the argument about speed. Essentially with the changes your taking advantage of the agility boost.
Goose99
#5 - 2011-11-26 22:54:10 UTC
You do realize ppl behave completely differently on Sisi, right? Good luck flying this thing. Maybe I'll come over and keep you company.Cool
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2011-11-26 23:07:11 UTC
Tara Read wrote:
So after fiddling with eft and flying around on sisi for a little I jotted down my future concoction of lol mobile fits for the megathron. IF these changes go live you better bet i'll be flying this.

Highs x7 neutron blaster t2 with void

Mediums named mwd scram web and LARGE cap injector now due to fitting tweaks.

Lows x4 rolled tungsten plates. X2 eanm a dcu.

Rigs are large trimarks drones ogre t2.

Now I know what your thinking. Wtf? Where are the mag stabs? And isn't that quad plated fit horrible with agility? Not with thee new changes. Here are the hard numbers.

168k ehp. 976 dps. And with a mwd 822 m/s. That's right with 4 plates you still scoot. Dps is solid, tank looks like a navy mega on paper just about and you still fit a heavy cap injector. All for 168 mil with rigs.

I did a paper numbers crunch of this vs a 1406 dps Gank mega with 110k ehp. The quad plate beats it barely. This mega plus guardians equals something quite awesome. Welcome your input / trolls/ screams.


I look forward to encountering your 10MN MWD Mega.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Ilvari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2011-11-27 00:20:43 UTC
He has four plates you'll never be able to break his tank until he logs off!
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2011-11-27 00:21:58 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Tara Read wrote:
So after fiddling with eft and flying around on sisi for a little I jotted down my future concoction of lol mobile fits for the megathron. IF these changes go live you better bet i'll be flying this.

Highs x7 neutron blaster t2 with void

Mediums named mwd scram web and LARGE cap injector now due to fitting tweaks.

Lows x4 rolled tungsten plates. X2 eanm a dcu.

Rigs are large trimarks drones ogre t2.

Now I know what your thinking. Wtf? Where are the mag stabs? And isn't that quad plated fit horrible with agility? Not with thee new changes. Here are the hard numbers.

168k ehp. 976 dps. And with a mwd 822 m/s. That's right with 4 plates you still scoot. Dps is solid, tank looks like a navy mega on paper just about and you still fit a heavy cap injector. All for 168 mil with rigs.

I did a paper numbers crunch of this vs a 1406 dps Gank mega with 110k ehp. The quad plate beats it barely. This mega plus guardians equals something quite awesome. Welcome your input / trolls/ screams.


I look forward to encountering your 10MN MWD Mega.


It's actually with a Quad Lif Booster rocket but thanks Lol
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2011-11-27 00:22:56 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
You do realize ppl behave completely differently on Sisi, right? Good luck flying this thing. Maybe I'll come over and keep you company.Cool


Lol. That's fine. It gets lonely. And of course I know how people fly on sisi it's like bumper cars with space ships dude. Thanks for the luck but I won't need it Twisted
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2011-11-27 00:40:57 UTC
If you're going to be flying with logistics having all those plates is stupid, if you had higher resists you'd get more EHP back per cycle from the guardian/s.
I likegirls
Lost Puppy Relocation Services
Sorority
#11 - 2011-11-27 01:01:57 UTC
Yes, I like this fit. Use more large trimarks! More gallente and armor fleets!
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2011-11-27 01:15:51 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
If you're going to be flying with logistics having all those plates is stupid, if you had higher resists you'd get more EHP back per cycle from the guardian/s.


What if your guardians become jammed or something along those lines? Resists are fine and wtf are you talking about having all the plates as being stupid? A cookie cutter fit is two plates.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#13 - 2011-11-27 01:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Tara Read wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
If you're going to be flying with logistics having all those plates is stupid, if you had higher resists you'd get more EHP back per cycle from the guardian/s.


What if your guardians become jammed or something along those lines? Resists are fine and wtf are you talking about having all the plates as being stupid? A cookie cutter fit is two plates.


The reason BS only have 2 plates is so the logi can 'catch' them. That is the amount of eHP they need to survive while the guardians/carriers lock them up and land first rep. Baddons can sometimes even get away with fitting a single plate because they have such high resists

Assuming you broadcast for rep once you are yellow boxed it only takes maybe 10 seconds before reps start landing, and not all the enemy fleet will have even got their guns on you in that time.

People who fit ships like you are the reason RR breaks, a guardian repping someone with 85% resists is 3 X more effective than one repping someone with 55% resist, and someone in a mega will almost always be primed fairly early on in a fight.


Also if all your guardians are jammed / other chances are your fleet has bigger problems than your awfully fit mega
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#14 - 2011-11-27 02:47:49 UTC
Tara Read wrote:

Lows x4 rolled tungsten plates.
...
This mega plus guardians equals something quite awesome.


As a logi pilot: no. Fit some resists please.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-11-27 03:00:50 UTC
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Joe Cheap
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-27 03:10:57 UTC
[Megathron, Pimpy tougher gank]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Domination Warp Scrambler
Stasis Webifier II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Anti-Explosive Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5


101k EHP
around 60% all resist
1300 dps
900m/s 1200 overheated
around 5m with all running
can swap some fancy stuff
Alara IonStorm
#17 - 2011-11-27 03:24:00 UTC
[Megathron, Cheap]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]


Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5


107k EHP, 806 Gun DPS 1250 with Ogres and overheat and faster then the 2 Plate Triple Trimark version. you save 40mil on Rigs.

Good for a cheapy fit.
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-11-27 03:51:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Demon Azrakel
Tara Read wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Tara Read wrote:
So after fiddling with eft and flying around on sisi for a little I jotted down my future concoction of lol mobile fits for the megathron. IF these changes go live you better bet i'll be flying this.

Highs x7 neutron blaster t2 with void

Mediums named mwd scram web and LARGE cap injector now due to fitting tweaks.

Lows x4 rolled tungsten plates. X2 eanm a dcu.

Rigs are large trimarks drones ogre t2.

Now I know what your thinking. Wtf? Where are the mag stabs? And isn't that quad plated fit horrible with agility? Not with thee new changes. Here are the hard numbers.

168k ehp. 976 dps. And with a mwd 822 m/s. That's right with 4 plates you still scoot. Dps is solid, tank looks like a navy mega on paper just about and you still fit a heavy cap injector. All for 168 mil with rigs.

I did a paper numbers crunch of this vs a 1406 dps Gank mega with 110k ehp. The quad plate beats it barely. This mega plus guardians equals something quite awesome. Welcome your input / trolls/ screams.



With logis 1 plate 1mfs (or 2) 2 te's (or 1 if 2 mfs), why would you loose dps/range/Speed if you have logistics?

Logistics = even MOAR gank AND less tank !

Because you may not always have a logi pilot or you may be primaried cause your simply well in a mega. Gaining 100 to 150 dps hardly outperforms having another 50k ehp. With the extra armor you stay in the fight longer to keep applying dps. As far as the speed issue with three plates on tq you do 768 m/s and roughly 860 to 900 now with 2 plates. Hardly counters the argument about speed. Essentially with the changes your taking advantage of the agility boost.


If you are worried about dropping before the logi get to you, you are bringing the wrong ship. Blasters have no place in large scale combat, plain and simple. If this (dropping before your logi catch you while having two plates) is still an issue in small scale combat, shoot your logi.
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#19 - 2011-11-27 06:17:09 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Tara Read wrote:

Mediums named mwd scram web and LARGE cap injector now due to fitting tweaks.

I look forward to encountering your 10MN MWD Mega.


Just for the record you know that that 'mediums' was the slot designator, like where it says 'highs' before the line above, and 'lows' before the bottom line - I actually thought it said 'mediums named mwd' too and then saw you quote it and then realized it wasn't actually 'mediums named mwd' and felt dumb about the world and wanted to share this anecdote of my suffering.
Valea Silpha
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-11-27 07:40:06 UTC
Demon Azrakel wrote:


If you are worried about dropping before the logi get to you, you are bringing the wrong ship. Blasters have no place in large scale combat, plain and simple. If this (dropping before your logi catch you while having two plates) is still an issue in small scale combat, shoot your logi.


Very very true.

And almost everyone here fits terrible ships btw.


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