Wormholes

Are you really going to complain about people complaining?

I see the 'complaints' as just a reminder to be more active outside of farming said in different ways.

If giving small entities in WH space a hard time with bigger numbers and evictions is how a majority of the WH players want to play the game then maybe WH is not the right gameplay for you, but that is how most of the players want to play right now.

You can look at any conflict in Eve like this 40 players want to fight 4 do not. The 40 players are going to get what they want, because that is the way 40 people want to play the game.
If you can get 40 players that just want to farm, vs 4 players that want to fight,. The 40 players are going to get what they want because reasons.

Let me know if you can follow this logic.....living in wh space means you have some isk to burn in PVP. Whether its a troll fleet of ventures, or a 40 t3's vs 4 drakes.
A bigger fleet rolling for some pew, just want a gf or a sacrifice to Bob.
There is hardly an eviction of a smaller entity that pvp's on a regular basis because they are active and contributing to content for the WH community.
If you never actively engage in pvp or are a null sec entity in WH the popular thing to have an invasion party for what ever reason the group feels like typing in local at the time.

True there are some immature hilariously awsome grudges (this is why i love this game) and people get on a high horse and justify their invasion as some noble cause for the greater good etc. But its pretty much an invasion based on groups just not liking each other.
And if your a smaller corp in this situation you probably should not poke the hive by saying something bigger than the ships and number you can field in local.

You use that word, but i don't think it means what you think it means.

For not complaining you sure had some things to say. But my bad. My lack of remorse for things that happen in a game is not as strong as your Bushido.

To sum up my point because reading is too much of a task for some people on a forum:
Be active outside of farming, take a fight you don't think you can win (you will be surprised at what a small group can do, but you won't know that unless you try) and you can be small group and not invaded in WH space.

If you don't like bigger groups complaining in the forums about the lack of content, maybe the forums are not for you.

HAHAHAHAHAAH...

Yeah the problem is us 30/40man active pvp corporations who like to kick it large and drop 2 dreads a carrier plus a subcap fleet to dread blap another fleet who may or may not of outnumbered us cannot realistically do that if one of these new superbumloverdonut coalitions roll into our hole.

We in whalegirth use to take fights against 30man SSC/noho/adhoc/ insert name fleets back in the day and we use to maybe have about 13/15 active pilots mostly multiboxing but we use to take those fights because they were fun and challenging.

On the other side of that you talk about you should take a fight you think you might not win you might be surprised.. right yeah against a 99man invading t3/capital fleet yeah sure.

I am sorry but as ive stated in this thread multiple times before if we wanted F1-F7 in wh space with no skill but PREZZ BOOTAAAAns receive killmails then we would be in nullsec sperge fleets under tidi.

I know for a fact 90% of the guys who came here for pvp didnt come for bum fun evictions.


PvP at the end of the day is ******* great and il whelp dreads and t3s anyday but think again if good fights mean a 100man fleet vs a corp who can field maybe 30 people max.

If thats what wormholes are going to become then **** that **** im out.

LOL @ "One day they are going to hit a small/medium corp that always pvp's"... Already happened to the OTRSC Fighting Otters of the Illusion of Solitude alliance several months ago.

Quantum Explosions! Part 1

Quantum Explosions! Part 2

Repercussions (the eviction) (Warning: Very long)

In retrospect, we Otters poked a bear in the nose to see what would happen. With a predictable result.

All this commotion about evictions Again.
I don't like em. They are boring mostly. I was on both sides of them and they suck.
If you are being evicted even if you fight it sucks, if you try to evict and fail it sucks.
If you are being evicted and succesfully beat them of then you can call it fun, but for most people it is a relief.
If you are evicting and won the battle and only thing is left to do is burn the towers with nothing in it because they self destructed then it is no fun.
What is fun is the big fights it gives the rest is just grinding.

Also stop scaring away the new members or the smaller corps.
Eviction only happens when you have a grudge or a top dog or realy, realy pissed some one off.

This thread needs more otter memes.

I think this is the major crux of this arguement here.

If you are evicting carebears or shitlords who wont fight, wont hear a peep out of me.

I dont agree with evicting active, pvping, wormhole groups. I think, as someone else pointed out, is a very short sighted decision that trades a burst of content immediately rather then long term content.

Evicting for any reason other than to live in the system yourself just lowers wormhole population and decreases content for everyone, and it's not just about the people that get evicted and never come back; it's also the people that never move in to begin with because they think they'll just get blobbed and kicked out by a bigger corp.

I don't think that's what Corbexx was trying to say, he was just using your alliance as an example to ask a specific question of RudinV.