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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#261 - 2014-10-28 16:34:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
Just because someone feels very strongly about their loss doesn't mean we shouldn't stop making them lose, or that the eula is broken.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#262 - 2014-10-28 16:36:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Veers Belvar wrote:
imbecility

Oh the irony, it hurts.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#263 - 2014-10-28 16:44:09 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Okay. I'll admit it. The Fedo thing was due to certain legal issues that I'd rather not go into detail about. Long story short, I'm no longer allowed within 1000 meters of a Fedo due to this. So I'm going to move the Fedo reward up to anything over 50 corpses as I have to get the little bastich out of my CQ within the next two weeks as dictated by law.

I will gladly relieve you of said Fedo. I haven't feasted in some time and I grow...hungry....

Fedo eating MONSTER!
They taste great when wrapped in bacon and slow roasted at 220°C for 4 hours, serve with roast potatoes, carrot and swede mash, greens of choice, lashings of gravy and some bread and butter to mop the plate with afterwards.

That actually does sound tasty. But I think you could swap out the Fedo for pretty much any animal and it would still be a true statement.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#264 - 2014-10-28 17:07:32 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
Just because someone feels very strongly about their loss doesn't mean we shouldn't stop making them lose, or that the eula is broken.


Obviously, no one said otherwise.

Of course specifically targeting them because you know they will feel very strongly about it is a whole other question.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#265 - 2014-10-28 17:18:00 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Actually I quoted the GM post where he said that using locater agents to chase people around and bump them can absolutely be harassment. Why don't you try reading next time? Or do Goons not believe in that?


I read it and I'm certain you are confused hence I think you need to petition a GM and get an answer. Specifically with this text "Is it against the rules for people to use locator agents to chase people around and bump them when they have a specific in-game reason, like not paying for a permit and being a thundering anus on the forums?"


What about doing it just because you feel like making the guy cry?


Make two tickets one with what I stated another with this post of yours I quoted and responded to. Compare the two responses afterwards.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#266 - 2014-10-28 17:25:32 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Actually I quoted the GM post where he said that using locater agents to chase people around and bump them can absolutely be harassment. Why don't you try reading next time? Or do Goons not believe in that?


I read it and I'm certain you are confused hence I think you need to petition a GM and get an answer. Specifically with this text "Is it against the rules for people to use locator agents to chase people around and bump them when they have a specific in-game reason, like not paying for a permit and being a thundering anus on the forums?"


What about doing it just because you feel like making the guy cry?


Make two tickets one with what I stated another with this post of yours I quoted and responded to. Compare the two responses afterwards.


I don't do the petition thing, kinda beneath me, sorry. You can go for it.
Paranoid Loyd
#267 - 2014-10-28 17:27:36 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
I don't do the petition thing, kinda beneath me, sorry. You can go for it.

So you don't use the only method of clearly defining the rules? What a surprise. Roll

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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#268 - 2014-10-28 17:30:08 UTC
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#269 - 2014-10-28 17:33:30 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!

There is a bounty on his head, as such hunting him and killing him to fulfill the bounty is legal and not harassment.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#270 - 2014-10-28 17:40:53 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!


My impression is yes, that would be harassment. Part of the reason you are unable to wardecc individual players is to prevent you from repeatedly going after an individual player who is trying to get away from you. Merely putting a bounty on his head will not remedy that.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#271 - 2014-10-28 17:42:52 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Okay. I'll admit it. The Fedo thing was due to certain legal issues that I'd rather not go into detail about. Long story short, I'm no longer allowed within 1000 meters of a Fedo due to this. So I'm going to move the Fedo reward up to anything over 50 corpses as I have to get the little bastich out of my CQ within the next two weeks as dictated by law.

I will gladly relieve you of said Fedo. I haven't feasted in some time and I grow...hungry....

Fedo eating MONSTER!
They taste great when wrapped in bacon and slow roasted at 220°C for 4 hours, serve with roast potatoes, carrot and swede mash, greens of choice, lashings of gravy and some bread and butter to mop the plate with afterwards.

That actually does sound tasty. But I think you could swap out the Fedo for pretty much any animal and it would still be a true statement.

You forgot the garlic. Garlic is a must when feasting on a Fedo.

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#272 - 2014-10-28 17:50:25 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
I don't do the petition thing, kinda beneath me, sorry.

So, there exists a method for clarifying the rules you complain about being vague, one that CCP has explicitly said should be used if you feel you are being harassed, yet using that method is "beneath" you?

Okay then. Your problem isn't with CCP or EvE game mechanics, it's with the fact that you won't use the tools that CCP has laid out for you to use to resolve such situations. It's your own choice that's bothering you, not the choices of others.

Petitioning is like voting. If you're not willing to petition a suspect behavior, you've really got no right to complain about it.

I think that's about I have to say about this, barring any further Fedo feasting content. Good luck to you sir.

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#273 - 2014-10-28 17:51:02 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!


My impression is yes, that would be harassment. Part of the reason you are unable to wardecc individual players is to prevent you from repeatedly going after an individual player who is trying to get away from you. Merely putting a bounty on his head will not remedy that.


I think it would depend on circumstances though. If you had a tough guy who continually boasted to everyone about his invincibility in high sec from gankers, and those gankers decided that they would repeatedly gank his incursion ship with nados until he accepted he was wrong, I don't think that would be counted as harassment.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#274 - 2014-10-28 17:51:23 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
I don't do the petition thing, kinda beneath me, sorry.

So, there exists a method for clarifying the rules you complain about being vague, one that CCP has explicitly said should be used if you feel you are being harassed, yet using that method is "beneath" you?

Okay then. Your problem isn't with CCP or EvE game mechanics, it's with the fact that you won't use the tools that CCP has laid out for you to use to resolve such situations. It's your own choice that's bothering you, not the choices of others.

Petitioning is like voting. If you're not willing to petition a suspect behavior, you've really got no right to complain about it.

I think that's about I have to say about this, barring any further Fedo feasting content. Good luck to you sir.


How clueless are you? Did I claim to have been harassed?
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#275 - 2014-10-28 17:52:43 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:

You forgot the garlic. {A pound of g}Garlic is a must when feasting on a Fedo.


Fixed your post.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#276 - 2014-10-28 17:55:15 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!


My impression is yes, that would be harassment. Part of the reason you are unable to wardecc individual players is to prevent you from repeatedly going after an individual player who is trying to get away from you. Merely putting a bounty on his head will not remedy that.

well thankfully for the rest of us you are so thoroughly concussed by the wrong end of the stick that is eve that your impression is irrelevant.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#277 - 2014-10-28 18:06:16 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!


My impression is yes, that would be harassment. Part of the reason you are unable to wardecc individual players is to prevent you from repeatedly going after an individual player who is trying to get away from you. Merely putting a bounty on his head will not remedy that.


Sorry, but your 'impression' while irrelevant is also false.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#278 - 2014-10-28 18:11:59 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!


My impression is yes, that would be harassment. Part of the reason you are unable to wardecc individual players is to prevent you from repeatedly going after an individual player who is trying to get away from you. Merely putting a bounty on his head will not remedy that.


Sorry, but your 'impression' while irrelevant is also false.


Prove it, bud. The GM comment seems to suggests strongly otherwise. As does the inability to wardecc individual players.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#279 - 2014-10-28 18:17:27 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!


My impression is yes, that would be harassment. Part of the reason you are unable to wardecc individual players is to prevent you from repeatedly going after an individual player who is trying to get away from you. Merely putting a bounty on his head will not remedy that.


Sorry, but your 'impression' while irrelevant is also false.


Prove it, bud. The GM comment seems to suggests strongly otherwise. As does the inability to wardecc individual players.


We have its you that needs to prove your claim.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#280 - 2014-10-28 18:19:26 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
If a hypothetical person uses locator agents to find and kill you repeatedly, is that harassment?

It's bounty hunting!


My impression is yes, that would be harassment. Part of the reason you are unable to wardecc individual players is to prevent you from repeatedly going after an individual player who is trying to get away from you. Merely putting a bounty on his head will not remedy that.


Sorry, but your 'impression' while irrelevant is also false.


Prove it, bud. The GM comment seems to suggests strongly otherwise. As does the inability to wardecc individual players.


We have its you that needs to prove your claim.


Lying isn't proof....it's just lying. And my claim is so obvious as to not need proof.