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What do black holes really look like?

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Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
#1 - 2014-10-23 22:02:30 UTC
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-10-23 22:03:41 UTC
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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#3 - 2014-10-23 22:07:02 UTC
That really is amazing, and CCP did a damn fine job with wormholes as it is but the black hole in those systems could prob use this treatment :P

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2014-10-23 22:13:43 UTC
It's black and it's a hole. It looks like nothing.

Get out of here with that Hollywood claptrap.

Mr Epeen Cool
Serene Repose
#5 - 2014-10-23 22:14:57 UTC
Let's see, what do they "look" like? Um...the gravitational pull is so strong it even pulls light, right? Sight is reflected light through the lens of an eye, right? No light. No sight.

I wonder why they call them "black" holes....

Next thing you know people will be saying we can fly in outer space. Flying uses an airfoil. No air. No foil. No flight.

Ain't being a human being strange?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2014-10-23 22:20:30 UTC
Cyndro beat you to this yesterday.



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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7 - 2014-10-23 22:23:38 UTC
How can you see something that does not reflect light?

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-10-23 22:34:08 UTC
Seems to me the OP is a bit like saying "if you were really invisible what would you look like" ?

It is kind of a Zen Koan, a bit like "what is the sound of one hand clapping" or "is it possible to have an excruciating pain you cannot feel" .
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2014-10-23 22:59:48 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Seems to me the OP is a bit like saying "if you were really invisible what would you look like" ?

It is kind of a Zen Koan, a bit like "what is the sound of one hand clapping" or "is it possible to have an excruciating pain you cannot feel" .


If a tree falls in a forest, and lands on a mime.. does anyone care?

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-10-23 23:14:56 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
How can you see something that does not reflect light?


What would it look like if we could see it, though?

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-10-23 23:35:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Seems to me the OP is a bit like saying "if you were really invisible what would you look like" ?

It is kind of a Zen Koan, a bit like "what is the sound of one hand clapping" or "is it possible to have an excruciating pain you cannot feel" .


If a tree falls in a forest, and lands on a mime.. does anyone care?


ah ... it is little known historical curiosity that what Bishop Berkeley originally said was:

"If a man speaks in a forest where his wife cannot hear him is he still wrong?"
Trey Kutoi
SergalJerk
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#12 - 2014-10-23 23:44:37 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
How can you see something that does not reflect light?


you do not see the blackhole, but rather the influence it has on its surroundings. Just the same as not seeing ultraviolet or gamma rays, yet seeing the effects they cause.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#13 - 2014-10-24 00:10:01 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
It's black and it's a hole. It looks like nothing.

Get out of here with that Hollywood claptrap.

Mr Epeen Cool

Gravitational lensing can be (and has been) observed with both orbital and terrestrial telescopes, as have the emission spectra of black hole accretion disks. So none of the things in that video are actually "claptrap."

Just saying.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#14 - 2014-10-24 00:11:10 UTC
Trey Kutoi wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
How can you see something that does not reflect light?


you do not see the blackhole, but rather the influence it has on its surroundings. Just the same as not seeing ultraviolet or gamma rays, yet seeing the effects they cause.

Like blindness.

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Daniel Jackson
Universal Exos
#15 - 2014-10-24 00:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Jackson
they look like a star but invisible to our eyes

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-10-24 00:31:55 UTC
Maybe the correct question is "What does a black hole not look like?".
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#17 - 2014-10-24 00:44:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
It's black and it's a hole. It looks like nothing.

Get out of here with that Hollywood claptrap.

Mr Epeen Cool

Gravitational lensing can be (and has been) observed with both orbital and terrestrial telescopes, as have the emission spectra of black hole accretion disks. So none of the things in that video are actually "claptrap."

Just saying.


The question wasn't about the effects a black hole has on it's surroundings that allow us to posit it's existence. It was, "What does a black hole look like?". Since the actual black hole is within the Schwarzschild radius, it is literally invisible.

Just sayin'.

Mr Epeen Cool
Hannibal Crusoe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-10-24 00:56:26 UTC
I do not know what it would look like.
But I am sure it would taste like chicken.

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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#19 - 2014-10-24 00:59:10 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
It's black and it's a hole. It looks like nothing.

Get out of here with that Hollywood claptrap.

Mr Epeen Cool

Gravitational lensing can be (and has been) observed with both orbital and terrestrial telescopes, as have the emission spectra of black hole accretion disks. So none of the things in that video are actually "claptrap."

Just saying.


The question wasn't about the effects a black hole has on it's surroundings that allow us to posit it's existence. It was, what does a black hole look like? Since the actual black hole is within the Schwarzschild radius, it is literally invisible. At all detectable wavelengths.

Just sayin'.

Mr Epeen Cool

This is also not strictly true for all detectable wavelengths, hawking radiation allows black holes to emit light via black body radiation. This is a necessary postulate in order to satisfy conservation of energy of experimentally observed rotating black holes via black hole evaporation.

Currently, research is under way to detect terminal gamma ray bursts from evaporating black holes, and there has been at least one experimental demonstration of the effect from a group out of the University of St Andrew's, UK.

Just saying.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#20 - 2014-10-24 01:11:24 UTC
Yeah I removed that part after realizing my error.

Mr Epeen Cool
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