Wormholes

Hello,

I am part of a tight knit crew of pvpers currently enlisted in Amarr FW.

Initially I had planned to move over to a WH corp to gather experience but have decided to stick with friends/my corp instead.

The corp is basically "Running In a Pack Method" meaning we know each other, are active at the same time, have the same interests and are very selective about recruitment (attitude matters the most).

Therefore we thought about moving into a C2 WH with a static low sec connection.

The idea is to be able to drop in anywhere near/in the warzones and elsewhere. Plex & gank and then get back into the WH. Plus baiting day trippers

From the money making aspect I think that a C2 + FW LP should shower us in enough isk to pay for a med pos and basic pvp boats. (Assault Frigs, T2/Faction Cruisers etc.) but the main reason is the PVP and the many many PVP opportunities this offers.

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Does anyone have experience combining FW and WH lifestyles and is there anything in particular you would recommend.

...What are the chances of getting our **** pushed in by the big boys i.e. hard knocks or similar in a c2 ?

....Will a medium dickstar do the trick or should we better go for a large pos ?

....On a scale from 1 to LOL WAT. How is easy is it to produce POS FUEL in a C2 ?

...How popular are Wolf Rayets and can Wolf Rayet C2 sites be run in AF's ?

(... Is our Idea ******** and we should better stick to Low Sec ? )


Thanks.

This pretty much sums it up. For a small corp a c2 is perfect if u just want to pew and make isk for ur ships. No large group will want to put in the effort to evict u in a c2 particularly if you are pvpers and not carebears.

A large tower may cost more to run but would make it even more of a pain in the ass for anyone considering bashing it.

As stated above making fuel can be done if u have good pi but in a c2 u will have plenty of kspace connections anyway.

I also wish you luck as I would like to see as many new faces in whs as possible.

Yes, it's a good idea, with few caveats and some notes:

Lowsec static can lead to anywhere in lowsec. And lowsec is pretty big. This means you might not connect to your warzone(s) as often as you'd like. Of course, you can always roll your static until you get one close enough. Just be prepared to connecting to a deserted backwater system every other day :D

If you are a small corp, you may consider a medium faction tower, it uses very little fuel but can fit the arrays you need. A large tower is more "safe" having more HP and defenses, but people certainly don't siege wh systems for fun. Especially in lower classes, where you can't use dreads. Evictions tend to happen for :reasons: only, you pissed off someone, or they really really badly want the exact wormhole system you live in, or you have something shiny like Rorquals and capitals in there.

Sometimes people do "faux evictions or trolling for fights", meaning that they aren't super serious about kicking you out, but try and force a PVP response out of you by hitting your assets. Call in your buddies and have a weekend of PVP!

Keep in mind that only things you can lose are the things you bring in the wh, don't put all your eggs in one basket and in worst case you'll just lose some ISK and your pride :D

Making POS fuel inside a wormhole is certainly viable and not rocket science, but you will still need to haul in the ice products. I find making my own fuel satisfying, I might save a little isk on the side, but ISK is not the main point of EVE. Imo. Pay attention to the planet composition when choosing your hole.

C2 wormholes always have dual statics, and the ones with a lowsec always have a C2 static. This is both awesome and ****. Awesome because C2 space is among the most active w-space with tons of connections, and thus offers lots of PVP opportunities especially for small corps. **** because (at the moment at least, this might and probably will change in Phoebe/Rhea) income from C2 anomalies isn't that great. They are easy to run with modest equipment (I soloed one in a PVP Myrm last night to bait out the locals), but damn, the loot and salvage you get isn't really much. However, having a static C2 means almost endless access to C2 anomalies, you are not limited to those that spawn in your home.

If you were to bring in a tower of pretty much any kind and are using 2 orcas to do that, then you could also use said orcas to roll a low-static at a decent pace.

Thanks for the answers. So far very valuable tips which are much appreciated.

A few us are not 100% sure yet as they are afraid that a normadic/WH lifestyle is too time consuming and we will end up running blockade runner alts 23/7 or getting evicted by T3 blobs :p

I guess the best way to find out is by trying but keep it coming. The more we know upfront the better prepared we are :)

Extremely unlikely that you will get evicted by the big boys.


Go for large.


I find it easier to buy in highsec and ship it in. However, it's doable if you have right planets.


yes, yes. However, usually, most of the sites are run in your wspace static, not in your home system.
The reason is that sites in your home system will dry up. A new static each days has new sites to run.
Since c2's have a kspace, AND a wspace static, this is perfect for what you are planning to do.


Definitely move to wspace. You'll never want to go back. :D

Hmm. Your right. There is no c2 lowsec/c3. There all highsecs.

That doesn't quite make any sense, but ok.

I think your concept idea is incredibly cool!

Just one extra thing to consider though is that fighting in wormholes can lead to more lost pods than you may be used to in low sec due to dictors/bubbles. Having a clean clone puts you at a small disadvantage when fighting the current meta of low sec PVP pilots with shiny heads though. That said, sticking in FW still leaves you plenty of options to cash out LP for replacement implants.

Anyways, happy hunting!

It is good in theory, but I think you guys will grow very tired of the mechanics of WHs. You have to scan daily, check your routes, check hostile holes, be wary of roaming gangs, have scanner alts stuck in hole at all times, logistics of hauling fuel in, logistics of hauling POS/modules, use empty clones, etc, etc.

It grows very tedious.


You will likely be better off staging out of a LS system near the front lines of your FW, or a HS one jump out.