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High-sec war-deccer, spy, griefer

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Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#21 - 2014-10-20 21:53:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Havenard
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Excuse me for a moment as I need to step outside for some fresh air, as I was laughing to hard at this 'statement'


Cool story bro. Are you always rude at people like this? Are you like that in real life too?

Don't forget you are interacting with people here, we are not unhuman peers.
Paranoid Loyd
#22 - 2014-10-20 21:57:13 UTC
Havenard wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Excuse me for a moment as I need to step outside for some fresh air, as I was laughing to hard at this 'statement'


Cool story bro. Are you always rude at people like this? Are you like that in real life too?

Don't forget you are interacting with people here, no unhuman peers.

Relevant

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Valkin Mordirc
#23 - 2014-10-20 22:03:39 UTC
Havenard wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Excuse me for a moment as I need to step outside for some fresh air, as I was laughing to hard at this 'statement'


Cool story bro. Are you always rude at people like this? Are you like that in real life too?

Don't forget you are interacting with people here, no unhuman peers.



And you completely demonstrate why players like you leave the game.




Also, I'm not rude, I just hammer relevant information into people's faces, because they generally are too stupid or arrogant to listen to reason.


Which you have also demonstrated perfectly.
#DeleteTheWeak
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#24 - 2014-10-20 22:08:29 UTC
John Oakman wrote:
Keep an eye out for this griefer.


What griefer? The rest of your post just described someone playing Eve.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#25 - 2014-10-20 22:18:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Havenard
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
And you completely demonstrate why players like you leave the game.

I guess I am, and I'm glad you noticed that one of the reasons is people like you.

The forums is a medium meant to people seek help and guidance, but instead people come here to be toxic and disrespectful.

What will be your excuse when your cup is full and some GM finally drop the ban hammer? That you were roleplaying? That you were just doing what many others do too?

You better watch yourself.
Paranoid Loyd
#26 - 2014-10-20 22:23:26 UTC
Havenard wrote:
You better watch yourself.

The irony is, all this whining is only going to make you a bigger target. Better quit while you are ahead behind.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#27 - 2014-10-20 22:24:27 UTC
Havenard wrote:

The forums is a medium meant to people seek help and guidance, but instead people come here to be toxic and disrespectful.


You do realize which forum you're on, right? Because in this one, and this one alone, that statement is turned on it's head.



Quote:


What will be your excuse when your cup is full and some GM finally drop the ban hammer? That you were roleplaying? That you were just doing what many others do too?

You better watch yourself.


Ooh, I'm so scared. Literally petrified.

Turns out, by the way, that literally everything this guy is doing against you, and then some, is 100% acceptable behavior in EVE Online, permitted by the game rules.

Don't like it? Quit.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#28 - 2014-10-20 22:24:46 UTC
Maybe try paying him off to leave you alone? As a rule highsec corps are kinda useless.....and if one clown is making life so difficult for you maybe it's time to close up shop and move on.
Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#29 - 2014-10-20 22:30:23 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Maybe try paying him off to leave you alone? As a rule highsec corps are kinda useless.....and if one clown is making life so difficult for you maybe it's time to close up shop and move on.

But thats exactly what he wants, and he is full of himself for doing that before to other corps. What will we be proving if we give him this taste again? Not happening.
Valkin Mordirc
#30 - 2014-10-20 22:35:04 UTC
Havenard wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
And you completely demonstrate why players like you leave the game.

I guess I am, and I'm glad you noticed that one of the reasons is people like you.

The forums is a medium meant to people seek help and guidance, but instead people come here to be toxic and disrespectful.

What will be your excuse when you finally give some GM reason to drop the ban hammer? That you were roleplaying? That you were just doing what many others do too?

You better watch yourself.




You want guidance? I already gave you guidance, but lets go again


Here's some more tips. Lets make a list Shall We?

1. Don't make a corp that's entirely filled with new-bro's,

1A. If you happen to take on new-bro's make sure you are readily and capable of teach them how pvp.

1B Don't start a corp when you are young and don't understand the game, it'll only cause distater when the corps founder doesnt know what he's doing.

2. Wanna know how my corp deals with bigger entities? Log off traps with a gank fleet waiting to happen. I've dropped many other merc corps because they got comfortable and made them pay for it. I've seen a corp smash 2 Vindicaters just because they could field 40 ravens. You're in an alliance, how about you go do that?

3. Learn that losing a ship is a part of the game and don't cry when you do.

4. Know WT alt watching? Jump in a cattie and suicide gank the silly thing, if you're lucky he might he have a sister's faction probe scanner on it,

5. Don't threaten a MERC when you are getting your ass handed to you by one guy, your not going to fare well when there are 20 people all wanting to merc on you. Also you do know ALL the Merc's watch this part of the forum right? Everyone from Marmite, IKR, POH, and BAW probably have seen your post as this point. You definitely do not want them deccing you, BAW and POH being the most likely to hunt you down and murder you. If you think this one guy is impossible wait until break-a-wish comes barring down.

5A. By posting here, you very well may have just doomed your corp/alice to permadec by Merc corps.

6. YOU ARE PART OF AN ALLIANCE, if you can't defend yourself from a single dude, then you need to find a better corp/alice, I've seen a fleet of thrasher tear merc corps apart, like I said before, I've seen Wartarget Ravens undocking from Amarr like suddenly Raven magically because fluid,

7. Hire people! Make connections, Forsaken, Failed, POH, are ALWAYS looking for contracts.
7A. If you hire Forsaken move to where they camp and set up shop there. No Single Wartarget is going to try and mess with you if have 10 Forsaken guys sitting on gates with a legion of proteus'.



There you go, advice. If you can't do this, then you need to drop corp, find a corp that CAN protect itself and go on from there.

If you can't take advice, harsh or not, you don't deserve to be playing this game. EVE actively pushes the weak away and rewards those who are smart and take risks.
#DeleteTheWeak
Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#31 - 2014-10-20 22:44:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Havenard
Valkin Mordirc wrote:


It seems you didn't get any of the problem.

The corp is not formed by only new players, but the griefer targets only the new players, when they are in a vulnerable situation.

It's not practical to anyone to be in a fleet 24 hours of the day ready for a war, specially because in practice the war doesn't really exist, its only one player, cowardly docked in a station waiting to make attacks at specific target when noone is looking.

At some days he just stays there, online and docked, for the full fuckin day.

We can't babysit him all day to know when he will attack, we got better things to do. Aside from having every member, individually, paying constant attention to their Locals for any unannounced approximation, theres nothing else we can do.
Valkin Mordirc
#32 - 2014-10-20 22:53:32 UTC
You are so completely WRONG,

1. Local is completely simple to watch, just move the chat box, above the corp window.


2. If you have better things to do, the a simple new-bro losing a T1 frig is nothing to worry about. If you own words, We have better things to do? So what does it matter if they lose a 5mil ship?

3. If I'm wardec with something entity I'd rather not be, Guess what? Every Time I'm online I have my alts sitting close to them, keeping an eye on things. It's not hard at all.


4. If stay docked up then who cares? Keep an alt on him anyways,


Also AGAIN, set traps. Have a member sit in Amarr or something in a ship that is brick tanked when you know the guy is active, have everyone log off individually, with ample time between each log off, then wait for him to take the bait.


When he does, log in and burn him.


Simple.
#DeleteTheWeak
Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#33 - 2014-10-20 22:57:40 UTC
You are obviously trolling. Please leave the topic.
Really Hot Guy
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-10-20 22:57:45 UTC
Havenard wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:


It seems you didn't get any of the problem.

The corp is not formed by only new players, but the griefer targets only the new players, when they are in a vulnerable situation.

It's not practical to anyone to be in a fleet 24 hours of the day ready for a war, specially because in practice the war doesn't really exist, its only one player, cowardly docked in a station waiting to make attacks at specific target when noone is looking.

At some days he just stays there, online and docked, for the full fuckin day.

We can't babysit him all day to know when he will attack, we got better things to do. Aside from having every member, individually, paying constant attention to their Locals for any unannounced approximation, theres nothing else we can do.


I've had a good think about your problem and you know what, you're right. There's nothing you can do.

Ezwal, close this thread please.

Thanks.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#35 - 2014-10-20 22:59:43 UTC
Havenard wrote:
You are obviously trolling. Please leave the topic.


Telling you that, instead of crying about how other people shouldn't be able to fight you, you should play the damn game instead, is not trolling.

There is plenty you can do about the situation you describe. That's a fact.

It seems you don't want to know about them, because then you can't cry about it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Valkin Mordirc
#36 - 2014-10-20 23:02:27 UTC
Havenard wrote:
You are obviously trolling. Please leave the topic.



The best part of it?



I'm not. Everything I've told you, has been legitimate advice. If you going to sit there and call it trolling.


Then maybe you might understand why I'm an asshat when it comes to giving it, because the majority of people who complain about wardecs, are incapable of learning or refuse to understand what EVE really is.


Sorry if you can't 'get it'.


Honestly by the way you have been posting, you abandoned all hope before you even posted.
#DeleteTheWeak
Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#37 - 2014-10-20 23:03:20 UTC
Trolling by misinterpreting everything I say and assuming I don't understand basic game mechanics. I do know them, thanks for the interest, but telling me to detach Local and keep a list of names visible is not the kind of answer I'm looking for.

If you are going to insist with this simplory and mocking kind of answer you have nothing to sum to us.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#38 - 2014-10-20 23:04:08 UTC
Havenard wrote:

I do know them, thanks for the interest, but telling me to detach Local and keep a list of names visible is not the kind of answer I'm looking for.


Then what answer are you looking for?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#39 - 2014-10-20 23:08:20 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
[quote=Havenard]Then what answer are you looking for?


Surprise me.
Valkin Mordirc
#40 - 2014-10-20 23:08:35 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Havenard wrote:

I do know them, thanks for the interest, but telling me to detach Local and keep a list of names visible is not the kind of answer I'm looking for.


Then what answer are you looking for?


Pretty much this.



You say you can't fight the guy, I give you a tactic which would help.


You say you can't watch local all the time, which either means you're afk mining, which you should be killed for leaving your computer in the middle of a wardec. In a ship that can not defend itself.

You say the guy won't fight unless he knows he can when, And I tell you to make a trap to deceive him into think he is safe.


Want answers are looking for again? For some white knight to come forward and say 'HERE BRAVE NEWBRO I'LL PROTECT YOU" If you did you came to the wrong game.
#DeleteTheWeak