EVE General Discussion

Maybe but I'm just so tired of people relating non consensual PVP to bullying or other RL crimes. Yes tears in local can be funny sometimes but being compared to a serial killer or people telling me what they like to do to my mother gets old...

It's a video game so please keep it that... Just because I shoot you in the head while playing COD doesn't mean I want to do the same in RL

I agree!...

Anyways this is thread # 958,543,436 on suicide ganking... Nothing really new

Ah gotcha... I remember GTA. I never really got too interested in that game. I like Eve because there are so many different things you can do and ganking being only one. Like everything in Eve it can be boring after a while.

I have fond memories, but I don't find much appeal in it anymore, as for Ganking miners, I think it's more fun when they are in lowsec, ther'e more skittish and nervous and much funnier when you catch them

Hey Ralph ... I'm sorry for not taking this thread seriously.

I contacted Dream Five yesterday and wanna know what she said?

"You are loyalanon's alt. Get lost." ... and after expressing my confusion and feeling horribly insulted ...



... she explained "you look alike".



Also: Quarantine for DOS. You play a taxi driver, can kill people, chainsaw on the car, blood, screams ...
....... Great game!

1) Passive income, some miners pay not to be ganked giving income to the ganker.

2) Some players enjoy the feeling they get from perceiving themselves "ruining" another player's play experience. Probably moreso than playing the game itself.

3) A PVP fitted ship has guns and could conceivably win, a barge has no guns and unless it is some type of bait, will never survive against a fleet of gank ships. Even when the disposable gankship is destroyed, the ganker's objective has been accomplished with pretty much guaranteed success. This puts the ganker at minimum risk vs. reward; reward being 1) or 2).

4) Most of the population in this game are in high sec, so little effort is involved in finding targets of opportunity for gankers. Players in high sec, particularly miners, also tend to be clueless about the mechanics of the game and ways to avoid ganking even if they've been playing for years. Even if they weren't, the odds of someone not being afk most of the time they are mining is pretty low. At least I'd hope so anyway, given the actual act of mining in this game is pretty much the most uninteresting thing you can do in this game outside sitting in station and spinning your ship. Which is ironically what most miner gankers would probably be doing if they weren't miner ganking. Which bring us to 5)

5) It beats ship spinning.

The mistake is your assumption that all players desire challenge, this is just false. This game is heavily slanted towards using any advantage possible to make it more likely that you will "win", whatever that means for you in whatever you are doing. For every guy doing 1v1 e-honor neutron blaster duels at noon, there are two more that will show up with booster alt and Falcon in reserve.

That said, miners get ganked because there is an abundance of people that want to gank them, for whatever reasons, and they allow themselves to get ganked by not tanking their ship, watching local, d-scan, or doing anything that resembles the actions of a player that is taking an active interest in their self-preservation.

Huh? The rules? I mean you are allowed to sit in station spinning your ship for hours on end....does that make that a smart thing to do? Ditto for running L1 missions all day. That you have a right to do something does not make it the right thing to do.

I can watch this for ages.

It is said that inexperienced military leaders talk about tactics; while the experienced leaders speak of logistics. The wars between the null-sec power blocs are not only fought in null-sec. There is always a hidden war within the war whenever the major null-sec powers of the EVE online class with one another, and it takes place in high sec. Most of the noncombat space peasantry that populates high-sec fail to recognize the fact that they are part of this hidden war.

While the scale and scope of this hidden war continues to evolve alongside the wars in null-sec; the fact remains that every neutral freighter, jump freighter, and miner is a potential target simply because that character may be engaged in the financing or resupply of a hostile alliance or power bloc. An enemy cannot fight you if said enemy has nothing to fight you with or if the financial burden becomes too great.

These people for the most part, do not care who they are selling their goods and services to the so long a tidy profit is made. They may sell to the CFC, but they are just as happy to sell to N3, PL, Nulli and others. That makes them as much threat as it does friend in my eyes. So I do what I and able to mitigate the affirmation threat.

There is no malice in my actions, any more than there is malicious intent when a miner, manufacture, or freighter pilot sells his goods and services to corporations, alliances, or coalitions that are hostile towards goons or our allies.

It is simply the nature of EVE online as it is meant to be; violent and intriguing. I personally find it a bit amusing that the high-sec space peasantry gets so angry about something that they finance and supply constantly without regard for anything save their wallets.

Here is my list

Depends which ship
What type of Asteroid field you are mining
Security Level of System
Whether you understand what an armour tank is
Whether you bothered to change your fit since you learned how tanks work more