EVE General Discussion

I think your oversimplifying things a little, people like to play speak etc face to face and when that's not possible a virtual representation is more personal than a name, a picture and a ship Incarna hasnt yet delivered on this because its basically still in development, people keep saying oh incarna is useless... ITS IN THE GAME FOR TESTING PROPOSES, now you could argue that they should keep it on the test server but then you wouldn't get as many people testing to see if it actually works on most computers.

Personally I'm happy with the way things are now but I couldn't argue that having avatar's that can walk around etc opens up the market, also with walking in stations it enables you to add more stuff into the game stuff that would be un-immersive if you did it in space.

I've got no issues with the concept, might very be fun one day.

But I had a lot of issues of it being forced upon us in such a pre-alpha state.

And actually, I've got no issues with NeX, I just don't use it.

Thing is, the concept for Incarna wasn't the concept just for Incarna, it was Eve's general concept. A complete Sci-fi universe, and one I was and still am behind.

The execution was terrible though. 1 CQ, Forced CQ, no actual flying content, the terrible new non-icons for turrets, poor performance....etc..

However, the biggest thing about the Incarna expansion for me was the lies from CCP.

A number of high up devs (one might have been Soundwave) promised that CQ would not only be completely optional, but wouldn't be implemented if it reduced functionality or TimeToKill.

Going from ~5 seconds to load up the hanger to nearly 20 to load up CQ was a massive faux pas, and completely against the aforementioned promise. Especially in light of some people wanting to dock just to repair/dump loot etc... It also removed lots of handy functions, notably the right click menu on the ship, or the drag and drop abilities.

Then we have the NEX store.
Recorded statements from last June saying CCP had no plans for RMT, previous April Fools jokes with the CEO mocking RMT and Free-to-play, then suddently, "hi guys, new currency and RMT!", when it was pretty obvious it was not only incompatible with Eve's subscription model, completely against the sandbox and player run economy which is one of the big points that makes Eve a success, but also against the wishes of the vast majority of the playerbase (and one of the reasons they played EVE was that it didn't have RMT).

Then to top it off not only were the items priced out of the market, a decision was made to go against one of Eve's core principles: Everything you own can be destroyed and space is brutal.
That, outside of RMT being in game in the first place, is the biggest sin of the entire NEX concept.

And then we had all the bullshit afterwards. Like the $1000 pair of jeans rubbish. Gold Scorps and the rest of it.

I don't hate Incarna, the execution was flawed and incomplete but the concept behind, is great, making EVE into the ultimate sci-fi experience.

Look at the Singularity , or wait for tuesday and you will see the stunning artwork with the new CQ. That and multiplayer content should have been included from the very beginning.

Thankfully none of the races in EVE is blue, nor elves. So we won't see any of that nonesence.

As many have said before. The concept is cool. The execution could been better.

Someone earlier said that people like dates more than promises. Personally I like truths more than dates.

I would have no problem waiting some more if CCP had gone out and said that we will launch this in full when its ready, not on "x" day. For the moment we give you this as a preview of whats to come and a way for us to test performances.

IT isn't fully released beacause all you haters QQed and shoot the memorial and stuff

I don't hate Incarna exactly, but nothing it brings to the table warrents development resources.

Idea good, ccps normal fail of launching something... 100% worthless

Took 3 years for me to be able to jerk off alone in my CQ that my vid card could hardly render, let alone once you got 2+ clients open... most exciting thing finding the bug that let you get on the table? Ya...

How much dev time was lost when it could have been making the game better.

WiS... nothing more than a way to sell us more crap for RL money WHILE fing us over with a sub for a game that is hardly getting any core dev.

Right, I say the whole concept was the NEX store... IMHO so I yep hate the whole concept of runway in space.

/emote drags in a dead horse.

Commence the beatings.

The original idea was good but then ego decided to create an new engine instead of a working engine and that failed horribly. Greeed decided that they would charge your wallet for items AND charge for a suscription. I could see conveience items (like training 2 characters on one account for a time) but CCP, like the industry as a whole, can't tell the difference between power and convenience. Therefore NEX can never work. NEX also breaks any immersion that WIS could have provided anyway.

I wouldn't mind WIS if I could walk into the market exchanges, just to see it. It could have had role playing possibilities like FIS/WIS quests that affect loyalty with specific groups. This would have been a good tool to get into Pirate Factions or start a character along a path of extreme loyalty to the Amarrian Royal Families. Perhaps Perform some Minmatar Spiritual journey that in the end secures your place within a particular organization. Maybe just wander the shops of the Gallente capital. BAR FIGHTS! Hack Station consoles for random BPC's or intel. Run a bar. Instead we got a money grab selling ugly, unimaginative clothes and useless items for unusable barbies. Big step down from the original concepts. It went from "lets make a world" to "lets sell some boots".

I don't hate the Incarna idea. I hate the execution of the idea and the fact CCP let everything go to crap while they made things they were going to force down the plaer base's throats.