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Torpedoes, time for a balance pass ?
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Jacob Stov
#1 - 2014-10-18 12:10:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacob Stov
Well, the title pretty much gives it away. After returning from a 3 year break pretty much noone uses torpedos anymore. No gank Ravens, no Torp Golems for PvE and bombers don't seem to be terribly popular either, judging by killboards.

So, what happened to them ? There was a blaster and CM buff apparently, but did they change torps, too ? Or is it just the relative performance that lacks behind now ?
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#2 - 2014-10-18 15:33:04 UTC
Jacob Stov wrote:
Well, the title pretty much gives it away. After returning from a 3 year break pretty much noone uses torpedos anymore. No gank Ravens, no Torp Golems for PvE and bombers don't seem to be terribly popular either, judging by killboards.

So, what happened to them ? There was a blaster and CM buff apparently, but did they change torps, too ? Or is it just the relative performance that lacks behind now ?


They made the skill that effects missile explosion radius (Guided Missile Precision?) include Torps which it previously did not do. So other than this damage application buff I don't think there were any other changes to torps.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#3 - 2014-10-18 15:48:03 UTC
they buffed cruise missile to a level that there is no point to use torpedoes anymore, that's what happened.
Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-10-19 01:03:34 UTC
I agree that they need a balance pass, since other than bombers, they hardly get used. But that said, in a bomber they'll make anything with a sig radius of shield cruiser and up run for cover. My hound gets 600+ DPS with faction torps at 65km range, and 480+ at 84km with javelin. So its all about the platform and timing. That said, a typhoon with torps and painters is still a pwnboat since the changes to that hull went in place. Take a look at it some time.
kurage87
EVE University
Ivy League
#5 - 2014-10-19 09:33:11 UTC
Verdis deMosays wrote:
I agree that they need a balance pass, since other than bombers, they hardly get used. But that said, in a bomber they'll make anything with a sig radius of shield cruiser and up run for cover. My hound gets 600+ DPS with faction torps at 65km range, and 480+ at 84km with javelin. So its all about the platform and timing. That said, a typhoon with torps and painters is still a pwnboat since the changes to that hull went in place. Take a look at it some time.

Well yeah that's the issue.

They would've rebalanced torps when they did cruises, except bombers. Any change to torps would have an ENORMOUS effect on bombers, to the point that you'd have to completely rebalance them on top of the torps. So they skipped over them.

TLDR They will rebalance torps when it is the bombers' turn for rebalancing.
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#6 - 2014-10-19 23:14:39 UTC
My entire corporation uses torpedoes 24/7, and our customers rely on these missiles' prompt delivery. I therefore request that no drastic changes are made unless it is to increase torpedo velocity for faster delivery.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#7 - 2014-10-20 03:41:22 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
My entire corporation uses torpedoes 24/7, and our customers rely on these missiles' prompt delivery. I therefore request that no drastic changes are made unless it is to increase torpedo velocity for faster delivery.



people seem to be saying torps are broken on everything except bombers, so if anything I would expect your delivery service would do nothing but gain from any potential changes to torps in the future.

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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-20 06:40:41 UTC
To mare wrote:
they buffed cruise missile to a level that there is no point to use torpedoes anymore, that's what happened.


^pretty much sums it up

but yeah ... stealth bombers for hot drops and FW missions.

Stuff like a Torpraven is still legit for posbashing though.

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