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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#41 - 2014-10-17 16:27:47 UTC
Kaaeliaa wrote:
I love how the same people who go around spewing the "HTFU" and "EVE has consequences huehuehue" lines are totally okay with alt posting, because dodging the consequences of having stupid opinions or trolling is the only reason to post on an alt. Anything else is a paper-thin justification.

The cognitive dissonance is hilarious.

iv been known to spew both those things, am i one of those people?

you realise whats being asked for is essentially just a cspa charge for the forums

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-10-17 16:27:59 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:
I have posted this before and will again:

I will hide who I really am every chance I get. Right now, anyone who posts with their main: I know who you are, who your corp is and what general area you do business in. You know absolutely nothing about me. What possible reason would I have for posting with a real character?

I am an honest, decent person in real life. EVE lets me 'be the villain'. Anonymous alts help me gather intel to do just that. 'Be the villain', you know, as CCP said I could?


That is flat wrong, answer all those questions you claim you can from knowing someone's main about me.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#43 - 2014-10-17 16:28:17 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:
I have posted this before and will again:

I will hide who I really am every chance I get. Right now, anyone who posts with their main: I know who you are, who your corp is and what general area you do business in. You know absolutely nothing about me. What possible reason would I have for posting with a real character?

I am an honest, decent person in real life. EVE lets me 'be the villain'. Anonymous alts help me gather intel to do just that. 'Be the villain', you know, as CCP said I could?


What's with all the straw, man?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Solecist Project
#44 - 2014-10-17 16:28:20 UTC
Please note that I added to a fwd that I will post this in C&P.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#45 - 2014-10-17 16:28:40 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Yossarian Toralen wrote:
Punishing many due to errors of a few is never a good idea.

There is plenty of examples of players that are in player corps trolling and abusing in this forum, should all player corps be banned from posting too?

You missed the detail ghat people in player corps actually log in ...
... and play ...
... thus face the possibility of consequences.


Have you not just contradicted yourself from a previous post?


Cowards who hide behind npc alts to post crap ...
... who know that nothing will stop them ...
... nothing happens to them ingame ...
... and bans take too long to be enacted.
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-10-17 16:31:15 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
That is flat wrong, answer all those questions you claim you can from knowing someone's main about me.


If you log in with that character, I know more about you than you know about me.

Ramona McCandless wrote:
What's with all the straw, man?


No straw man, just the truth. You are more than welcome to disagree.
Solecist Project
#47 - 2014-10-17 16:35:00 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
That is flat wrong, answer all those questions you claim you can from knowing someone's main about me.


If you log in with that character, I know more about you than you know about me.

Ramona McCandless wrote:
What's with all the straw, man?


No straw man, just the truth. You are more than welcome to disagree.

And you are perfectly right with this metagaming of yours,
but you don't actually need to post on the forums for what you said.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#48 - 2014-10-17 16:36:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaaeliaa
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Kaaeliaa wrote:
I love how the same people who go around spewing the "HTFU" and "EVE has consequences huehuehue" lines are totally okay with alt posting, because dodging the consequences of having stupid opinions or trolling is the only reason to post on an alt. Anything else is a paper-thin justification.

The cognitive dissonance is hilarious.

iv been known to spew both those things, am i one of those people?

you realise whats being asked for is essentially just a cspa charge for the forums


Considering the fact that you don't seem to be hiding behind a faceless alt in a faceless NPC corp, I'm pretty sure you're fine. I don't always agree with you (nor do I always agree with Sol), but the content of the posts isn't the problem. When a random alt says the same thing, the hypocrisy is both ridiculous and hilarious.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Solecist Project
#49 - 2014-10-17 16:37:16 UTC
Wait... people EVER agree with me?

Mind blown! :O

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#50 - 2014-10-17 16:39:21 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:


No straw man, just the truth. You are more than welcome to disagree.


Thanks

Butyeah, you are strawmanning

No one said you couldnt alt, or that you needed to mainpost

Its the NPC alts, specifically the ones made to shiptoast without comeback (i.e. trolls like the one Sol quoted in her early posts) that are the problem being discussed, not alter egos designed to protect your in-game rep

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#51 - 2014-10-17 16:39:52 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Wait... people EVER agree with me?

Mind blown! :O


Agreeing with you is sort of like a guilty pleasure.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-10-17 16:41:59 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Petre en Thielles wrote:


No straw man, just the truth. You are more than welcome to disagree.


Thanks

Butyeah, you are strawmanning

No one said you couldnt alt, or that you needed to mainpost

Its the NPC alts, specifically the ones made to shiptoast without comeback (i.e. trolls like the one Sol quoted in her early posts) that are the problem being discussed, not alter egos designed to protect your in-game rep


I understand. I was defending NPC alts, not people posting garbage just for the sake of trolling.

Anyone (NPC or player corp) who posts merely to shiptoast shouldn't be on the forums.
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#53 - 2014-10-17 16:42:50 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Petre en Thielles wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
That is flat wrong, answer all those questions you claim you can from knowing someone's main about me.


If you log in with that character, I know more about you than you know about me.

Ramona McCandless wrote:
What's with all the straw, man?


No straw man, just the truth. You are more than welcome to disagree.

And you are perfectly right with this metagaming of yours,
but you don't actually need to post on the forums for what you said.


The OP should not have been brought to the forums, You do have a block option in game you know.
Solecist Project
#54 - 2014-10-17 16:43:09 UTC
Calling Tham a troll is probably not hitting it.

From his replies and consistency it shows that he has massive issues with himself
and desperately tries to push all his hate back onto me.

I, though, don't catch the ball so there is nothing he can do
but continously trying to throw it at me.

There is this feedback loop everyone on the forums observed already,
which can be broken by not engaging into.it.

It's these people who are an issue and ruin the atmosphere for everyone.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#55 - 2014-10-17 16:44:51 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Calling Tham a troll is probably not hitting it.

From his replies and consistency it shows that he has massive issues with himself
and desperately tries to push all his hate back onto me.

I, though, don't catch the ball so there is nothing he can do
but continously trying to throw it at me.

There is this feedback loop everyone on the forums observed already,
which can be broken by not engaging into.it.

It's these people who are an issue and ruin the atmosphere for everyone.



Opinion and conjecture!
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-10-17 16:48:12 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
That is flat wrong, answer all those questions you claim you can from knowing someone's main about me.


If you log in with that character, I know more about you than you know about me.

Ramona McCandless wrote:
What's with all the straw, man?


No straw man, just the truth. You are more than welcome to disagree.


In other words you admit you are wrong and that you cannot glean the information you claim from posting with a main.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#57 - 2014-10-17 16:48:40 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Calling Tham a troll is probably not hitting it.

From his replies and consistency it shows that he has massive issues with himself
and desperately tries to push all his hate back onto me.


You and me both, chick...

Re: Just don't
From: Tahm Cruise
To: Ramona McCandless
INBOXRemove Label
Whatever. It's like you two expect some kind of special treatment and expect to be able to treat people however you like just because you claim to be female.
I really couldn't care less. I understand that there's some lonely assholes out there in EVE who would give their T2 BPO's away for a chance at some female interaction but Me? Not so much. I've had dozens of girlfriends and have one right now as well.

If a woman tries to take advantage of her sex in a conversation with me I'll let her know very quickly that this **** dont work on me, especially rude women like your little girlfriend.
Btw, who's the man in your relationship? Probably you huh? Since you were so quick to step in and try to solve this ****?

Honestly, I'd fart in your face any day. Being equipped with a **** isn't worth a damn thing in my world. This is the west, we're equal, so expect to be treated equally.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Big Lynx
#58 - 2014-10-17 16:49:35 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:


Welll... there is. The person in question makes a thread with an idea that lacks any sense.
He is an npc shitposter who doesn't have the cohones to post with his main.
As he can keep hiding from any actual consequences,
he started se ding this.



@OP

I always thought you are the prototype of an alt of an alt doing shitposting.
Solecist Project
#59 - 2014-10-17 16:49:53 UTC
Thank you, Ramona. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#60 - 2014-10-17 16:49:56 UTC
That was after I said that he shouldn't rise to what Sol says if he doesn't like it, he should ignore it.

Someone has a problem.

And it ain't us.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann