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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#1 - 2011-11-26 04:25:42 UTC
Hi.

I should know this, but have forgotten it, or just an idiot.
Take your pick.

Here is the issue.

Corp standings with an NPC corp = 5.14
Individual pilot's standing with same NPC corp = 0.00, no contact before.

I assumed that corp standings would supercede all, but that is not the case.
The individual can't even access a L2 R&D agent with the NPC corp we have standings of 5.14 with.

Can someone explain to me the mechanics?
It is really weird, I thought I knew the mechanics, since when I was in the E-UNI, I was one of a few that brought the UNI's standings up with an NPC corp up above 8.0 so that the entire UNI was successfully able to access the NPC corp for jump clone service.
Sinful Injustice
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-11-26 04:48:15 UTC
Agents only ever look at your personal standings towards them, their corporation and their faction.

The corporation you are a member of will have no effect on the agent you are talking to.

Gaining a jump clone from an npc corporation is a different matter altogether, since no actual agents are involved, and in such a case your corporation and all the members can use the jc facilities if your corporation's standings are high enough (i.e. above 8.0)
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#3 - 2011-11-26 15:48:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Kilrayn
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I assumed that corp standings would supercede all, but that is not the case.
The individual can't even access a L2 R&D agent with the NPC corp we have standings of 5.14 with.

Been a long while since I've used R&D agents and they may have changed, but you need more than standings to get access to them. You also need specific science training to speak with them, i.e. nuclear physics 3. You should be able to see what you need in the agent's info tab.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#4 - 2011-11-26 17:52:11 UTC
Kilrayn wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I assumed that corp standings would supercede all, but that is not the case.
The individual can't even access a L2 R&D agent with the NPC corp we have standings of 5.14 with.

Been a long while since I've used R&D agents and they may have changed, but you need more than standings to get access to them. You also need specific science training to speak with them, i.e. nuclear physics 3. You should be able to see what you need in the agent's info tab.


Yeah, know that. Use R&D agents myself and definitely need those skills.
But Sinful Injustice's answer cleared things up for me, unfortunately.

That individual pilot has some grinding ahead of him.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#5 - 2011-11-26 17:56:17 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Kilrayn wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I assumed that corp standings would supercede all, but that is not the case.
The individual can't even access a L2 R&D agent with the NPC corp we have standings of 5.14 with.

Been a long while since I've used R&D agents and they may have changed, but you need more than standings to get access to them. You also need specific science training to speak with them, i.e. nuclear physics 3. You should be able to see what you need in the agent's info tab.


Yeah, know that. Use R&D agents myself and definitely need those skills.
But Sinful Injustice's answer cleared things up for me, unfortunately.

That individual pilot has some grinding ahead of him.


Or you can fleet up with someone who runs lvl4 mission for that corp. Grinding yourself is slower than fleeting up.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#6 - 2011-11-26 18:00:41 UTC
Kaanchana wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Kilrayn wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I assumed that corp standings would supercede all, but that is not the case.
The individual can't even access a L2 R&D agent with the NPC corp we have standings of 5.14 with.

Been a long while since I've used R&D agents and they may have changed, but you need more than standings to get access to them. You also need specific science training to speak with them, i.e. nuclear physics 3. You should be able to see what you need in the agent's info tab.


Yeah, know that. Use R&D agents myself and definitely need those skills.
But Sinful Injustice's answer cleared things up for me, unfortunately.

That individual pilot has some grinding ahead of him.


Or you can fleet up with someone who runs lvl4 mission for that corp. Grinding yourself is slower than fleeting up.


Oh yeah, that is a given.