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Why Aren't More People In W-Space?

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350125GO
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#141 - 2014-10-22 15:33:22 UTC
Bronya Boga wrote:
Greg Inglis wrote:
super high risk. unbelievably low reward.


Can you define super high risk?


I think it means he's likely to lose his Drake.

You're young, you'll adjust. I'm old, I'll get used to it.
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#142 - 2014-10-22 15:41:46 UTC
Chaotix Morwen wrote:
King Fu Hostile wrote:
Chaotix Morwen wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
The new T3 destroyers should bring in some new players and they will be great for traversing those crappy small ship wormholes.

We are still going to need new conflict drivers and content if there is ever going to be a sustained increase of activity in space though, IMO.


I agree, were going to see a roughly 2 month boost to salvage prices before they go back to their normal iskies level. Itll end up drawing no more players than what are in whs currently.


2 months, based on what? A ship class built from sleeper poop that is cheaper than strategic cruiser, and less SP-intensive will boost wh income for years.

(if it's a usable ship)



2 months based on how quickly people give up on gimicky toys. I highly doubt these ships will be particularly effective, and will be used for the sake of being used. T3 or not its still a destroyer hull, and will be easily destroyed by a competent cruiser, unless ofc ccp make these things into op montrosities that beat the regular t3s stats...in which case i will admit im wrong.


Well, so far CCP has failed to introduce a single gimicky toy that gets abandoned after two months.

Also, two destroyer hulls in zkill top 10.
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#143 - 2014-10-22 15:43:06 UTC
350125GO wrote:
Bronya Boga wrote:
Greg Inglis wrote:
super high risk. unbelievably low reward.


Can you define super high risk?


I think it means he's likely to lose his Drake.


You can lose your drake in wspace? Thats not what I signed up for.
Malcaz
Omni Paradox Securities
Grand Inquisitors Federation
#144 - 2014-10-22 19:44:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcaz
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#145 - 2014-10-22 20:00:35 UTC
Malcaz wrote:
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.


There are tons of wspace corps that recruite quite easily. Tbh if by paranoia you mean full api checks and divisional access then your fears are those are things all good corps do for the security of its members
Malcaz
Omni Paradox Securities
Grand Inquisitors Federation
#146 - 2014-10-22 20:09:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcaz
Bronya Boga wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.


There are tons of wspace corps that recruite quite easily. Tbh if by paranoia you mean full api checks and divisional access then your fears are those are things all good corps do for the security of its members


Not that, it's the general attitude of paranoia. It's not enjoyable.

Not many good ones. And mostly for lower tier wormholes.
Bronya Boga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#147 - 2014-10-22 21:21:39 UTC
Malcaz wrote:
Bronya Boga wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.


There are tons of wspace corps that recruite quite easily. Tbh if by paranoia you mean full api checks and divisional access then your fears are those are things all good corps do for the security of its members


Not that, it's the general attitude of paranoia. It's not enjoyable.

Not many good ones. And mostly for lower tier wormholes.


Im confused did you play with truly paranoid people? We always joke about it but full disclosure we aint all like that ahaha its just a spaceship game and wspace lets us truly experience it like we think this game should be
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#148 - 2014-10-22 23:28:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Trinkets friend
King Fu Hostile wrote:


Well, so far CCP has failed to introduce a single gimicky toy that gets abandoned after two months.

Also, two destroyer hulls in zkill top 10.


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Ilaister
Binary Aesthetics
#149 - 2014-10-23 00:14:49 UTC
Malcaz wrote:
Bronya Boga wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.


There are tons of wspace corps that recruite quite easily. Tbh if by paranoia you mean full api checks and divisional access then your fears are those are things all good corps do for the security of its members


Not that, it's the general attitude of paranoia. It's not enjoyable.

Not many good ones. And mostly for lower tier wormholes.


Security is the job of your leadership to deal with. One of the many reasons why it's ******* ace being a director in wspace. If security is becoming a regular discussion in any WH corp then something is very wrong.

I know of a couple corps recruiting across all classes, high and low. Lazerhawks and some bros have opened a new chan specifically to draw people like you back in. Give somone in the thread here a poke if you are serious about coming into our gassy folds.





Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#150 - 2014-10-23 00:26:09 UTC
Bronya Boga wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
Bronya Boga wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.


There are tons of wspace corps that recruite quite easily. Tbh if by paranoia you mean full api checks and divisional access then your fears are those are things all good corps do for the security of its members


Not that, it's the general attitude of paranoia. It's not enjoyable.

Not many good ones. And mostly for lower tier wormholes.


Im confused did you play with truly paranoid people? We always joke about it but full disclosure we aint all like that ahaha its just a spaceship game and wspace lets us truly experience it like we think this game should be

Bronya did just recruit about a handful of Obstergo guys... 0effs to give. I think Jilozz told me he even told them he was a spai when joining :P Really, the paranoia thing does exist in wormholes, but even with current mechanics, and good recruiting, it is relatively easy to avoid thefts and shenanigans. Just takes some learning/effort. I would advise ANY would-be future corp CEO's in wormholes to find some successful CEO's/directors and pick their brains for the do's and don'ts of wormhole leadership, corp, POS, and role management, and learn about the hits and misses of good and terrible recruiting.

Lot's of experience currently available to players, and many of them are willing to share and talk to you.

"Join W-Space" channel ingame.

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Brazilian Dream
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#151 - 2014-10-23 05:04:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Brazilian Dream
Belle epoche
Arise again
Gorgeous nebulae
Ominous dessies
Friends and foes alike
Dwell in dark deep
Infinite killmails await
Corps merge and crumble
Kings and pawns
Surrender to Bob's Grace!

-edit- for you Mr. Diadochu
<3
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2014-10-23 05:08:31 UTC
Proc buying us all fancy coats again. Seems like the best way to get people into wormholes.

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#153 - 2014-10-23 08:59:08 UTC
To me personaly getting told this "If you are the typical Eve player that plays about 2-3 hours a day then perhaps
wormholes are not for you." has been a pretty big turn off so far. So I had to find a group/place that does not require a
"no job 23/7 EVE" Lifestyle :p

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Winthorp
#154 - 2014-10-23 09:46:19 UTC
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
Proc buying us all fancy coats again. Seems like the best way to get people into wormholes.


I got so cold wearing a singlet and waiting for Mr Diadochu to send me a long promised new coat that my arms got frostbite and i had to cut them off only to be replaced with robot arms.
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#155 - 2014-10-23 11:21:39 UTC
Proclus Diadochu wrote:
Quote:
quotes


... I would advise ANY would-be future corp CEO's in wormholes to find some successful CEO's/directors and pick their brains for the do's and don'ts of wormhole leadership, corp, POS, and role management, and learn about the hits and misses of good and terrible recruiting.

Lot's of experience currently available to players, and many of them are willing to share and talk to you.

"Join W-Space" channel ingame.


This. Because theres no reason not to

~Bringer of happiness

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King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#156 - 2014-10-23 11:34:26 UTC
Luwc wrote:
To me personaly getting told this "If you are the typical Eve player that plays about 2-3 hours a day then perhaps
wormholes are not for you." has been a pretty big turn off so far. So I had to find a group/place that does not require a
"no job 23/7 EVE" Lifestyle :p


No idea who tells stuff like that, unsurprisingly wormholers are normal people with RL just like everyone else.

Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#157 - 2014-10-23 12:03:25 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Obil Que wrote:
I personally would love to see unique PvE content like k-space -> w-space escalations

Great idea. Occasionally, mission-runners in low-sec or even hisec would be offered special missions for which a wormhole in a nearby system is spawned that they have to scan down. In the wspace system they'll find a mission site that is of similar difficulty as their usual missions (=easy) but pays as much as a w-space site would, or more. Level 1 agents could offer missions into c1, level 2 to c2 etc. No such missions in c5/6.

To not generate too many additional wormholes, these special holes would only appear if a pilot actually accepts the mission; I expect most of these missions would be turned down like the new burner missions.


You'd have to move these wormholes off the scanning system, just like escalations themselves cant be probed out. The pilot going into w-space would still face teh risk of doing content in the system, and could still bring friends in and out through the wormhole with him, which I assume would collapse on completion of the mission, but having it spawn for everyone to probe out (and see immediately on their overlay) would create a ridiculous level of risk not even seen in level 5 lowsec missions (it doesnt announce to the entire syste that content has appeared)
Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#158 - 2014-10-23 12:19:25 UTC
Malcaz wrote:
Bronya Boga wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.


There are tons of wspace corps that recruite quite easily. Tbh if by paranoia you mean full api checks and divisional access then your fears are those are things all good corps do for the security of its members


Not that, it's the general attitude of paranoia. It's not enjoyable.

Not many good ones. And mostly for lower tier wormholes.

Is that why you're still in NPC corp?

Good luck with your 'fun' in kspace :P
Necharo Rackham
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#159 - 2014-10-23 12:47:59 UTC
Luwc wrote:
To me personaly getting told this "If you are the typical Eve player that plays about 2-3 hours a day then perhaps
wormholes are not for you."


It kind of depends. The majority of the people I know in w-space are have a fairly regular RL, though there are some students who are online a lot. Usually when limited player-time is an issue it's other way around; recruit who plays 2-3 hours a day complaining that they can't do exactly what they want that day, be it highsec supplies/nullsec roaming etc.

As long as you are willing to roll with what the chain brings you, 2-3hours are fine.
350125GO
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#160 - 2014-10-23 12:51:20 UTC
Senn Denroth wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
Bronya Boga wrote:
Malcaz wrote:
I looked into joining a w-space corp for a while, but all the paranoia puts me off. Eve is a game that I play for fun, and that makes it not fun to me. Also, it is hard to even find a decent w-space corp that is openly recruiting, probably for that reason.


There are tons of wspace corps that recruite quite easily. Tbh if by paranoia you mean full api checks and divisional access then your fears are those are things all good corps do for the security of its members


Not that, it's the general attitude of paranoia. It's not enjoyable.

Not many good ones. And mostly for lower tier wormholes.

Is that why you're still in NPC corp?

Good luck with your 'fun' in kspace :P


There's no place more paranoid than sov holding null. It's why I got out. I was so sick of being concerned of who was a spy, who wasn't, and all the BS about the long scam in the "meta" of the game.

Aside from trying to weed out players who will empty out a corp hangar, I have yet to see a WH corp that's paranoid about anything. WH's are too random to bother to place spies anywhere. Alt's are for scouting, not spying.

You're young, you'll adjust. I'm old, I'll get used to it.