Wormholes

Its faster to just slowboat the dred.

There are so many variables at play, many of them with competing/cross purposes making w-space frustrating for those that are not already over inclined to live there. Much of this list is from the perspective of a group that has been in w-space a short time relative to many, is on the smaller side, more PvE than PvP focused and perhaps indicative of many corps coming from k-space to w-space other than pure PvP organizations.

• You have a highly non-casual playstyle in w-space (many activities take more time to set up or execute compared to k-space). This can limit character participation due to lack of "fun" when the setup takes up considerable portions of playtime.
• The risk level is much higher than any other space when you do go out to engage in content which is required in w-space as nothing is handed to you to do.
• PvE groups suffer from the EVE rewards system where group play is disincentivized through split rewards when solo/small group would suffice. This discourages increasing group participation. Group play, however, is necessitated by the increased risk level in order to operate efficiently or securely.
• POS mechanics foster distrust and awox/thievery making recruitment harder than it needs to be further limiting corporation growth potential. Corporation numbers are needed in order to provide adequate concentration of pilots online at a given time for either participation or protection.
• PvP groups in wormhole space are very efficient compared to corps either starting up, PvE focused, or with casual player membership allowing for a smaller number of dedicated PvP pilots to cripple a seemingly larger corporation that has a less organized/spread membership. Encountering PvP organization in multiple timezones can exacerbate this effect making it seem futile to operate in w-space.
• The PvP "meta" is T3 which has a significant price tag in both ISK and skillpoints for members who see T3 fleets as a dead stop to their activities.

I'm sure there are more but that's just been our experience. We're still here, however, and loving w-space despite all this. Addressing POSes will go a long way to improving the recruitment capabilities of fledgling w-space corps. Addressing PvE rewards will improve the state of affairs for w-space residents. Both will draw more people including PvP players. I personally would love to see unique PvE content like k-space -> w-space escalations or anything like the null-sec anomalies in w-space that will draw in more day tripping pilots. So many w-space corps report that they often have been able to recruit with their guns that each person that enters w-space for rewards and becomes a target is future potential w-space corp member. Even seemingly simple changes to T3 production materials could mean a major improvement in w-space use if those changes ripple out to industrialists and pilots using those products

30sec to roll a hole ? Come on plz ... You are just trolling.



Ok you have a solo astero player able to gank solo. Congratulations .



BC cant tank sleepers BS for example. The last waves in C3 data/relic are dangerous without a properly remote setup.
BC are ok for combat ano in C1 to C3.
But they need very good intel because they are too slow to w/o. DS usage is not a safe method to protect against gank. You need a scout on each connexion in the system. And new players have not usually others account to do that. So they need support from vet guys.

It's not an easy thing.



First, most people don't handle a new concept the first time, they need one, two or three time the same information again.

Second you forgot a lot of things :
- what is a static, how to find the core data of each connexion type (mass & duration)
- how to set up wh dedicated overviews
- how to deal with POS
- how to set up a fit for wh farm, fit for wh pvp, fit for wh logi,
- how to fastly scan down a system
- how to use third party tool to share the intel data
- how to use bookmarks
- how to scout safely a POS
- how to find a guy in wspace only with dscan
- how to takes advantage of sensor overlay in a pvp context
- what kind of data we need when encountering other player in wh (corp info, kb, is in a wh group so need to know the main wh entities)
- the differences between wspace and kspace pvp
- how to pve relatively safely regarding to your ship type
- how to roll a hole
- etc ... i forgot surely things here

There is plenty of things needed to be repeated many times because it is not possible for a person to learn all theses things instantly.

1. No im not trolling should take you longer then 60 seconds. If it does figure it out.

2. How else do you define solo? I dont understand.

3.drakes can run solo c3 anoms. It is known. Besides the fact that if you are in wormholes and think you deserve to make money easily solo you will leave disappointed. Whs encourage team play. Embrace that ****.

Alright for this one try to keep up

Static is your constant connection every wh will have no matter what. It always goes to the same type of space. C1 and c3 have 1 kspace static, c2 have two statics one to wspace one to kspace, c4 has 2 wspace statics and c5/6 have 1 wspace static. Use siggy(w/e) to look what they are until you memorize them.

Take pvp overview add wormholes and scan probes. Done.

Explaining divisional access takes 5 minutes no more.

Link fit in corp. Done.

Practice.

Open siggy. make homepage. Dont close.

Learn dscan which isnt an exclusive skill nedded to wspace so lets not count it.

Teach proper scouting (told ya before 30 minutes)


Aggro timer dont matter. Polarity. Most likely will brawl.

Scout ahead of time. Dont be stupid. Dscan. Dont afk.

Math is easy. See calculator for details.

How long did that take you to read that? See its fast not months. This was fun give me more :)

Try C4 Sites with Nagas. Take a Fleet with 2 Basilisk and 1 or 2 HAM Tengus for the frigates and at least a Minimum of 5 or 6 Nagas. We used to do C4 Sites in that configuration in about 4 - 7 Minutes each.

^^This.

Remember also that the POS issues are part of what leads to the notorious WH mega-thefts. These thefts are entertaining to watch, and highly lucrative, but can still end a corp/alliance if it sufficiently undermines trust or morale.

Certainly the meta-game of corp thievery is part of what makes Eve great, and I'm not opposed to it. I don't begrudge anyone for using the mechanic while it exists, but rather just that these issues can directly lead to less people living in wormholes. Managing roles and divisions isn't all bad, but in the end there's almost always someone else who can get to your stuff.

People don't like knowing that their stuff isn't secure. I think this is a strong argument.

And you can pop all your blue loot with that last "extra" bomb.

I'd be all like "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message".

\o/

I wish it was about the money :<

nothing important. just dumb bear rambling