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Tengus overpowered?

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Paul Tsukaya
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-10-14 02:18:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Tsukaya
This is kind of ridiculous: evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4628&b=6197490&e=1680&t=bfbberf

The only real counter to tengus in blob warfare (as in can take them with even numbers) is more tengus. Their tank is completely silly.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#2 - 2014-10-14 03:16:33 UTC
Two words; Fire Wall.

2 bs make a tengu fleet useless

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#3 - 2014-10-14 03:27:06 UTC
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HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#4 - 2014-10-14 03:31:32 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Two words; Fire Wall.

Firewalling doesn't stop rails.

That said, anything attacking in the hundreds seems overpowered. And railgus are some of the few ships that can be totally disabled by void bombers.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2014-10-14 04:41:03 UTC
I'm failing to see the feature and/or idea in this post can some one point me to it?

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#6 - 2014-10-14 04:49:47 UTC
HiddenPorpoise wrote:
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Two words; Fire Wall.

Firewalling doesn't stop rails.

That said, anything attacking in the hundreds seems overpowered. And railgus are some of the few ships that can be totally disabled by void bombers.


If you're able to land void bombs on railgus you're able to land normal bombs on railgus. At which point you're killing an entire fleet with a single bomb run + they lose skill points. If this happens several times a week you severly cripple the effectiveness of the tengu fleet.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#7 - 2014-10-14 05:42:45 UTC
Bombs.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#8 - 2014-10-14 05:55:50 UTC
Paul Tsukaya wrote:
This is kind of ridiculous: evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4628&b=6197490&e=1680&t=bfbberf

The only real counter to tengus in blob warfare (as in can take them with even numbers) is more tengus. Their tank is completely silly.

One would be inclined to wonder if perhaps a blob of carriers might succeed.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-10-14 05:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
ROFLMAO.

Now, that people don't use Ishtars anymore, it's Tengus again. This turned around as quickly as I had anticipated. The amount of whine and inaptitude in this game sure is astounding.

You do realize that players of smaller entities must go to extreme lengths and measures to counter an entity as big as yours, right? There is no point in fielding BS or other crap ships against you, as your number advantage will simply crush them without any positive result. The only viable counter against entities like yours is ships like Ishtars and Tengus. Clear the blob so that other players don't need to fear the hot drop of hundreds of more reinforcements on their fleet and you might encounter again something else than the hard counter to the blob. It's up to you. Your decisions lead to decisions like Railgu and Ishtar fleets. You can remove the need for these fleets. Roll

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-10-14 07:24:25 UTC
With the right fits and a lot of money tengus are hard to kill but dang it, if I drop 2.5 billion on mods and even more on implants I expect it to be hard to kill.

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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-10-14 07:32:39 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
ROFLMAO.

Now, that people don't use Ishtars anymore


Wait what?

Not in my neck of the woods.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-10-14 07:55:55 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
HiddenPorpoise wrote:
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
Two words; Fire Wall.

Firewalling doesn't stop rails.

That said, anything attacking in the hundreds seems overpowered. And railgus are some of the few ships that can be totally disabled by void bombers.


If you're able to land void bombs on railgus you're able to land normal bombs on railgus. At which point you're killing an entire fleet with a single bomb run + they lose skill points. If this happens several times a week you severly cripple the effectiveness of the tengu fleet.


you never encountered slippery petes did you ?

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2014-10-14 08:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
afkalt wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
ROFLMAO.

Now, that people don't use Ishtars anymore


Wait what?

Not in my neck of the woods.


No Ishtars in Ammod? Well, that's hardly a surprise as it's a School System full of new players or new alts/toons, don't you think? Blink

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Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-10-14 08:49:26 UTC
As someone who regularly solo blitzes lvl 5s in a tengu, I can attest to the veracity of the statement that the tengu is indeed, 'OP'.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2014-10-14 09:08:29 UTC
Catherine Laartii wrote:
As someone who regularly solo blitzes lvl 5s in a tengu, I can attest to the veracity of the statement that the tengu is indeed, 'OP'.


That does not show that the Tengu is OP, but rather the poor mission design of CCP. Blitzable L5 missions are the worst here.

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Anthar Thebess
#16 - 2014-10-14 10:52:14 UTC
Simple solution.
Reduce max fleet size to around 120 people.

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-10-14 11:13:01 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Simple solution.
Reduce max fleet size to around 120 people.


Instead of shoving 8 fleet in a system you'd shove 16.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2014-10-14 11:25:02 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
With the right fits and a lot of money tengus are hard to kill but dang it, if I drop 2.5 billion on mods and even more on implants I expect it to be hard to kill.


350 mil for the CFC railgu.
WILLY TROPICAL
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-10-14 11:29:46 UTC
Everything is op.

Blasters op
Tengus op
Ishtar op
Drones op
Falcon op
Logi op
FCs with more than half brain op
Friends op
Legion not op. Buff the Legion.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#20 - 2014-10-14 11:50:39 UTC
WILLY TROPICAL wrote:
Everything is op.

Blasters op
Tengus op
Ishtar op
Drones op
Falcon op
Logi op
FCs with more than half brain op
Friends op
Legion not op. Buff the Legion.


Not to mention:

Alpha Nados OP
Alpha Maels OP
Carriers OP
Bombers OP
Rookie Ships OP (seriously, it has been brought up in the past.)

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